Bracketology 2024

[HFCS]

Not sure if womens bracketology is in here but if our women get a 9-11 seed are we not like Gonzaga getting a 8-10 seed where the top seeds are going to groan if they get that draw? I mean they haven't been "Gonzaga" this year but you know they still have the pieces compared to most low seeds you could draw...and disrespected Gonzaga might be a new animal too.

Seems like the biggest knock on ISU women is they were a young team who took lumps to gain experience really fast...when you look at the pieces now that they're experienced, seems like a complete team that just beat a ranked team on the road.

 

[LivntheCyLife]

am i incorrect that they seed the field 1-68? they try to do the regional matchups based on those seeds, where teams can get put to a different region based or moved up or down a line due to the conference rules, but if houston is supposed to play the weakest 2 or strongest three they would have the 8 and 9 seeded teams to do that.

It's a mixture of geography and s-curve (true seed). For example, here's last year's top 16 teams with their seed and place on s-curve:
South
1) Alabama - 1
2) Arizona - 7
3) Baylor - 9
4) Virginia - 16

East
1) Purdue - 4
2) Marquette - 8
3) Kansas St - 11
4) Tennessee - 14

Midwest
1) Houston - 2
2) Texas - 6
3) Xavier - 12
4) Indiana - 15

West
1) Kansas - 3
2) UCLA - 5
3) Gonzaga - 10
4) UConn - 13

It mostly follows geography but then they adjust to balance regions and avoid matchups. Anecdotally, trying to predict what region the 2-4 seeds will end up always feels like one of the most unpredictable part of the bracketing process.

 

[Dale]

Not sure if womens bracketology is in here but if our women get a 9-11 seed are we not like Gonzaga getting a 8-10 seed where the top seeds are going to groan if they get that draw? I mean they haven't been "Gonzaga" this year but you know they still have the pieces compared to most low seeds you could draw...and disrespected Gonzaga might be a new animal too.

In Massey's computer power/prediction ratings, the ISU women are more of a 5/6 seed in strength than a normal 8/9/10 seed, so I'd say there's some truth to that. The problem in the women's NCAA, though, is that the top four seeds host the first two rounds on their home floors, so that makes it doubly difficult to get the upset over the top seed. I'd still say ISU has a chance against any 1 or 2 seed...except South Carolina, who will likely run rampant over the entire tournament.

 

[cykadelic2]

The clearest indicator is he still has KU as a 2. Then there’s Alabama and potentially Duke rated ahead of us. Then there’s Wisconsin being seeded as a 5.

He now has ISU ahead of KU. And why would he have a bias for Wisconsin when ESPN no longer carries B10 hoops?

 

[CascadeClone]

Surprised that ESPN doesn't have BPI and SOR for the women's side. As much as they have been pimping the Clark story to get views, and as low cost as it should be to get all that women's game data squeezed thru the same machine to create BPI... I would thought they would have had it.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Total aside here.

Whoever hires Kyle Smith (Washington State) this cycle is going to get real good, real fast. That guy is a star.

 

[cykadelic2]

He now has ISU ahead of KU. And why would he have a bias for Wisconsin when ESPN no longer carries B10 hoops?

Regarding the above from Lunardi, he does screw up with his region assignments. The sum of the seeds for each region cannot differ by more than 5. As listed above, the sum of the seeds for the West region is 38 and for the South, it is 31.

Swap Creighton and San Diego St and you fix it without violating other bracket principles. West would then be 36, South 33, Midwest 33, East 34.

And if he was following location assignment criteria properly, he would have assigned #14 Auburn to the MW Region and #16 UK to the East Region and been okay with the sum of the seeds principle. MW would instead be 31 and East 36 for a difference of five. Neither of those two can be assigned to the South or West since other SEC teams are already there.

 

[Cfinnerty16]

I’ll give you my bracketology

 

[Cyforce]

If Kansas loses at Baylor and Houston and ends up 10-8 its realistic they are a 6 seed in KC.
Passed by Baylor, BYU and Tech.

 

[HFCS]

Haters gonna hate, front of ESPN mbb right now:

 

[cycloneworld]

He now has ISU ahead of KU. And why would he have a bias for Wisconsin when ESPN no longer carries B10 hoops?

That's actually one of the best Top 16s I've seen and makes a lot of practical and analytical sense.

Lunardi gets **** on a lot (rightfully so), but I give him credit here.

 

[Clone95]

Didn't the Big 12 have the best record against the other P6 conferences in the non-con?

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

Haters gonna hate, front of ESPN mbb right now:
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Now do in conference strength of schedule. Where does the Big 12 rank there? The non conference obsession is f*cking stupid.

 

[Jayshellberg]

If Kansas loses at Baylor and Houston and ends up 10-8 its realistic they are a 6 seed in KC.
Passed by Baylor, BYU and Tech.

That would be a shame.

 

[jdoggivjc]

That's actually one of the best Top 16s I've seen and makes a lot of practical and analytical sense.

Lunardi gets **** on a lot (rightfully so), but I give him credit here.

I appreciate everything SVP said on it last night in One Big Thing: "multiple things can be true at once... The Big 12 is the best basketball conference... the Big 12 played an awful OOC schedule... it did help manipulate NET rating... ACC schools: there's nothing preventing you from doing the exact same thing next year - schedule accordingly."

 

[Cyforce]

I appreciate everything SVP said on it last night in One Big Thing: "multiple things can be true at once... The Big 12 is the best basketball conference... the Big 12 played an awful OOC schedule... it did help manipulate NET rating... ACC schools: there's nothing preventing you from doing the exact same thing next year - schedule accordingly."

Yet none of these schools crying are willing to come to Hilton.

 

[Cyburbbalz]

Once Kansas fans start off loading them.

Creighton fans probably have most of them since they got 1st opportunity to buy.

 

[HFCS]

Yet none of these schools crying are willing to come to Hilton.

They know Houston is better than entire ACC and took a loss.

Duke, UNC, come get your home and home or stfu and enjoy the jv leagues.

 

[chuckd4735]

Creighton fans probably have most of them since they got 1st opportunity to buy.

Creighton can't play there.

 

[CascadeClone]

That's actually one of the best Top 16s I've seen and makes a lot of practical and analytical sense.

Lunardi gets **** on a lot (rightfully so), but I give him credit here.

Agree.

Also, sign me up for that right now