I’d rather play ksu. Always hard to beat a team three times. With that said we should be in the championship if we play well
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I'd also rather play KSU. We are a substantially better team than them, especially if Kaluma is officiated correctly although I wouldn't hold my breath on that. TCU is a solid well-coached team and it's tough to beat a team like that three times unless you're just a matchup nightmare for them, which we aren't.
That was a tight game in Ames until Tang decided to get T'd up.
I would expect a tough game against either one with free throws and valuing the ball being the difference.
We are 2nd place in the Big 12, KSU is 10th
We are #12 in kenpom, KSU is #68
We are #9 in NET, KSU is #71
etc.
Preferring to play TCU is a valid opinion, but I'll take the NIT team with the space cadet coach who hasn't won a game away from home since early January.
We are #12 in kenpom, KSU is #68
We are #9 in NET, KSU is #71
etc.
Preferring to play TCU is a valid opinion, but I'll take the NIT team with the space cadet coach who hasn't won a game away from home since early January.
About the only reason I'd choose TCU instead of KSU is having crowd/fan advantage.
We might have it anyway, but it'd be more so vs. TCU.
Also kind of boring to play same opponent back-to-back. Although it'd be amusing to play consecutive reg season/B12T matchup in consecutive seasons.
We might have it anyway, but it'd be more so vs. TCU.
Also kind of boring to play same opponent back-to-back. Although it'd be amusing to play consecutive reg season/B12T matchup in consecutive seasons.
At the time, we had a four factors which make it seem possible.
Our offensive efficiency has absolutely cratered and hasn’t improved.
Making the E8 or FF is always a long shot. When you play like we have been on offense the last few weeks those odds get even worse.
Agree with most posters saying that a deep run will depend on Gilbert being more disciplined and Milan returning to big shot form. Tamin looks like he is returning to form. We’ll need points from Tre but overall, how we do will depend a lot on which Gilbert we get.
My biggest concern w the tourney is that this team is pretty game-plannable. That makes them super susceptible to a 1st or 3rd round game loss.
On offense, you just have to not turn the ball over. Just pass safely until you get a three attempt and take it. Even if you shoot poorly, youre not giving up run outs. Also, you can just drive at Milan over and over. Still hard to execute that however, vs ISU defense.
Defense, just clog the lane. Maybe play a 2-3 zone. If ISU isnt scoring in the paint, its usually not scoring more than 60. Even w decent shooters, ISU has been reluctant to bomb away, and once they miss a couple they get gun shy. Need a little Fred therapy and just keep shooting until they start falling.
Gotta figure out a better way to score, to put pressure back on the other team to score. Then once they start pressing you get the TOs and run outs.
On offense, you just have to not turn the ball over. Just pass safely until you get a three attempt and take it. Even if you shoot poorly, youre not giving up run outs. Also, you can just drive at Milan over and over. Still hard to execute that however, vs ISU defense.
Defense, just clog the lane. Maybe play a 2-3 zone. If ISU isnt scoring in the paint, its usually not scoring more than 60. Even w decent shooters, ISU has been reluctant to bomb away, and once they miss a couple they get gun shy. Need a little Fred therapy and just keep shooting until they start falling.
Gotta figure out a better way to score, to put pressure back on the other team to score. Then once they start pressing you get the TOs and run outs.
ISU will always have the crowd advantage in KC. Unless we play KU. Then it will be 50/50.About the only reason I'd choose TCU instead of KSU is having crowd/fan advantage.
We might have it anyway, but it'd be more so vs. TCU.
Also kind of boring to play same opponent back-to-back. Although it'd be amusing to play consecutive reg season/B12T matchup in consecutive seasons.
That was s straight up challenge to Mom. I like it.That was a very unhappy TJ!!
I appreciate the brutal honesty while at the same not tearing the player down.
I don't know how TJ operates in his communications but I wonder if there's individual meetings over the next couple of days to dig in for a bit of a reset.
Agree with this point. After we went up 11-2 we were out scored 41-15 over the next 20 minutes or so. This is neither offense or defense. We had 2 fast break points and had 11 points off turnovers (compared to their 20) for the game.
I don’t know if it’s mental and/or physical fatigue or if teams figure out how to scout us offensively but this seems like a trend the last couple of years.
If Milan is not going to be a threat to shoot from three and our offense involves Gilbert or Lipsey driving into the lane and throwing up a prayer that is not very hard to defend.
I know TJ and the competitors on this team are not built this way, and I know any good athlete isn't, but they could use a few days off. I know it won't happen, but that's my humble opinion.
I played small college hoops before transferring to ISU. I remember at the end of the year - whether it was my time playing high school basketball before or small college basketball - after a week / week and a half after the season was over all of the sudden you could jump 5 inches higher, and the spring was back in your first step. The grind of 4.5 plus months of lifting, day-in-day out intensity and with as hard as this team plays.... it has to wear on their bodies. I imagine they believe they're just fine and will power through, as most exceptional athletes would, but, it would be interesting to see them have a week off come back as I suspect their bodies will rebound. At least I remember feeling that way after a long season. Would be neat to see them have real bounce and spring in their step during an NCAA Tourney run.
Doubt it will happen and this team can still go on a great run. The Tourney is so much about match-ups and which teams are hitting. Still a great and overachieving season no matter what happens from here on out.
I played small college hoops before transferring to ISU. I remember at the end of the year - whether it was my time playing high school basketball before or small college basketball - after a week / week and a half after the season was over all of the sudden you could jump 5 inches higher, and the spring was back in your first step. The grind of 4.5 plus months of lifting, day-in-day out intensity and with as hard as this team plays.... it has to wear on their bodies. I imagine they believe they're just fine and will power through, as most exceptional athletes would, but, it would be interesting to see them have a week off come back as I suspect their bodies will rebound. At least I remember feeling that way after a long season. Would be neat to see them have real bounce and spring in their step during an NCAA Tourney run.
Doubt it will happen and this team can still go on a great run. The Tourney is so much about match-ups and which teams are hitting. Still a great and overachieving season no matter what happens from here on out.
That’s not the point though. Who knows? But we have seen a good stretch this year in conference where we were playing at that level. So it can be done, especially since we will see teams that never see us. However that doesn’t mean we will find that level.
The point is teams make runs in March all of the time that you wouldn’t think. Why not us one of these years?
Agreed. I think Milan needs to just shoot. He’s been very passive on open looks. If he misses, he misses. But I am not in his head, so seeing more shots miss may not help him. What I hope TJ is point out the old “You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take” quote because what’s the difference with missing and not taking the open looks? Well one is guaranteed we don’t score and the other is at least giving you a chance. And we are struggling mightily anyone young man, so let it fly.
I think goal #1 is getting Gilbert back to 100%. He is favoring a leg and has impacted his ability to have that extra step of athleticism that he had all year. Giving us another option other than Lipsey to get to the hoop and stop other teams runs is huge, not to mention his ability to defend. It will also collapse the other teams D to give Milan some space to get a shot off.
With C.Jones coming on the way he has the last month, this team could be on for a big bump, but will be dependent on Gilbert getting back to health. Getting out of the B12 will be big for this team.
With C.Jones coming on the way he has the last month, this team could be on for a big bump, but will be dependent on Gilbert getting back to health. Getting out of the B12 will be big for this team.
Said in some other thread that I think after a reset they may find a way to get to somewhere between that peak and where they are now.
Hopefully it balances out to win some games.
