Omaha enters the transfer portal (confirmed)

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You keep saying this and I’m curious what would properly in your mind be?

In my mind it would be the exact role Tre King and Demarion Watson had, he just wasn’t able to process it this year. It was probably the first year in his life he couldn’t “out athlete” his competition and it showed.

Anything not trying to make him a 5
 

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Yeah, it’s a stupid term and very unfair to TJ. He sets expectations with the players. They are honest expectations. He does not sugar coat them. But just because he lets them know that they shouldn’t expect playing time is not running them off.
And (as others have alluded), I'm confident it's a two-way conversation, with each player ... and it's continuum, throughout a season, not just one meeting after the season concludes. Perhaps I'm naive and it doesn't work that way at all. I certainly don't have insider k-knowledge.

When I think "running off," I envision a coach saying to a player, "I don't see any minutes for you next year. If you wanna stay, that's great, but I prefer you look elsewhere." A bit of hyperbole, but something similar to that.
 

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The truth of the matter is they didn't "whiff" on evaluations. Nor did they "whiff" on development.
These kids left early through the portal. And ISU never got the chance to reap the benefits because of the players impatience or the team's ability to improve through the portal.They may end up being really good players with another year or 2 of development at whatever college they stick with. But there's no way you can say they're a bust after 1 year.
 

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A buddy of mine in Chicago says ol' Sam is still not on the straight-and-narrow.

He was not what you'd call a "character guy".

I was once in a pick-up game with him and he walked off in the middle of the game and started playing in the next court over. Left us with 9 guys and a 10-minute argument of who should come in to take his place.
Been there.interesting.
 

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Anything not trying to make him a 5

You think he is a 5? That’s interesting. I would be shocked if he is interested in that.

He is a 3 or 4 in the NBA which I’m guessing is his main goal, playing a 5 in college would not help get his limited offensive skill set NBA ready.
 
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Am I over-exaggerating the fact that he possessed little to no basketball common sense? He rarely, if ever, looked like he knew what he was doing. That isn't not knowing ISU's complex D system. That was knowing where to position yourself when playing man to man in general. He could have chosen one of just a few best practices to do right, but rarely did.

That was not "not gained" becuase he was not there over the summer. That was "not gained" over 6 to probably more like 8 years of pretty intense organized basketball.

He was able to overcome these lack of fundamentals in HS becuase he was so much more athletic than most of his opponents. Once at this level, the lack of fundamentals and offensive skillset was on obvious display.

BUT, the good news is, he is young, he is still super athletic and a team with more needs and more time to develop him will benefit in the long run from his presence.

I don't think this is the end of the road for Omaha. Just a fork in his path. I think we all wish him great success whether we like the circumstances of the parting or not.
Well said. Agree 100%.
 

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Surprised? Nope. However the staff is always multiple steps ahead of the curve. Every year we get better, we bring in a healthy mix of high-level recruits from high school and are getting multi year transfers that can contribute at a high-level right away. They have the formula and it’s working.

Omaha is athletically gifted however, that doesn’t mean he’s gifted in all other areas. I personally think he has a ways to go. I don’t see major upside until his junior or senior year. If he’s contributing at a high-level next year at a power five I’ll eat crow, but I just don’t see it. It’s easy to lose perspective and get hung up on a five star McDonald’s all American rating, but sometimes evaluators are wrong in their assessments. If you reevaluate Omaha, he was a three star recruit for his freshman year with maybe 5 star upside down the road.

Best of luck to all the guys that transferred. Hope it works out for them.
 
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Anything not trying to make him a 5
I think they played him at 5 because that was the easiest position to play so the easiest way for Omaha to see minutes. Set screens, rebound, don’t worry about creating offense… Chances are he would’ve played other positions if he showed any improvement but it was too early for that this year.
 

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Surprised? Nope. However the staff is always multiple steps ahead of the curve. Every year we get better, we bring in a healthy mix of high-level recruits from high school and are getting multi year transfers that can contribute at a high-level right away. They have the formula and it’s working.

Omaha is athletically gifted however, that doesn’t mean he’s gifted in all other areas. I personally think he has a ways to go. I don’t see major upside until his junior or senior year. If he’s contributing at a high-level next year at a power five I’ll eat crow, but I just don’t see it. It’s easy to lose perspective and get hung up on a five star McDonald’s all American rating, but sometimes evaluators are wrong in their assessments. If you reevaluate Omaha, he was a three star recruit for his freshman year with maybe 5 star upside down the road.

Best of luck to all the guys that transferred. Hope it works out for them.
Agree. If Milan and Omaha switched their high school rankings I don’t think people would be freaking out as much on these boards. Drafts are the same way. Pure athleticism and talent doesn’t always pan out. Kyle Boller, Vince Young, Jamarcus Russell, etc. are all living proof that talent doesn’t always equate to working out.
 

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Who is LaBron? I know a LeBron. If you’re talking about Bronny James, he was only a four star recruit but he also averaged 5 points in 19 minutes, far more productive than Omaha, who was much higher rated than him.
Also injured during the season.
 

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I'd compare Omaha's situation with Iowa State as an NFL team taking a reciever that runs a 4.1 40 but is very raw. If it works, great. However, if they can't get open, catch, read a defense or understand the offensive plays their athletic attributes render useless.
The fact is, you still have to bring them aboard and try. I give Omaha credit. Everything I hear is he stayed positive and was a good teammate all year.
 

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You think he is a 5? That’s interesting. I would be shocked if he is interested in that.

He is a 3 or 4 in the NBA which I’m guessing is his main goal, playing a 5 in college would not help get his limited offensive skill set NBA ready.
I believe he thinks the opposite. No one thinks that Omaha is a 5.
 
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He did, but he runs a business and this website exists because some people are willing to pay a premium for it. So if you don’t want to pay, then don’t complain about not getting the information before it is public.
Does he get a check from Elon when posting on X too? Just don’t know why he doesn’t post on his own website, premium or not.
 
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For those who believe that Omaha's departure is primarily due to inaccurate evaluations or poor development by the coaches, you may be right but you also may be wrong similar to those who won't rate Brock Purdy as a pro more highly because they had rated him so low pre-draft. They refuse to admit they were wrong.

I hope Omaha is able to mold and mesh his physical skills into a team-player role as his physical gifts aren't teachable but team-play is and, if you don't mesh with the rest of your team, you don't play.
 

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Agree. If Milan and Omaha switched their high school rankings I don’t think people would be freaking out as much on these boards. Drafts are the same way. Pure athleticism and talent doesn’t always pan out. Kyle Boller, Vince Young, Jamarcus Russell, etc. are all living proof that talent doesn’t always equate to working out.
I heard two months ago from someone with inside knowledge that this was going to happen…so I’m not surprised. I was still kind of hoping things would change, but it sounds like it just wasn’t a good fit.

This one hurts because we finally landed another McDonald’s All-American, and a local kid too…and he didn’t pan out. I agree with others; though, that it doesn’t appear Omaha is close. I’ve seen the WVU comments, noting his athleticism and hoping they get him. I truly believe that won’t work out for them (and sadly would then benefit us). It seems it would be best for him to drop down a level. Perhaps South Dakota State would be a good option for him.

I don’t think this is a failure on the staff’s part. I think this is more about Omaha not wanting to play our style of basketball. He probably didn’t realize how difficult it is. Kudos to him that it sounds like he kept a pretty positive attitude. I’m sure he’ll benefit from it long-term, even if it’s not a good fit for him now.
 

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I heard two months ago from someone with inside knowledge that this was going to happen…so I’m not surprised. I was still kind of hoping things would change, but it sounds like it just wasn’t a good fit.

This one hurts because we finally landed another McDonald’s All-American, and a local kid too…and he didn’t pan out. I agree with others; though, that it doesn’t appear Omaha is close. I’ve seen the WVU comments, noting his athleticism and hoping they get him. I truly believe that won’t work out for them (and sadly would then benefit us). It seems it would be best for him to drop down a level. Perhaps South Dakota State would be a good option for him.

I don’t think this is a failure on the staff’s part. I think this is more about Omaha not wanting to play our style of basketball. He probably didn’t realize how difficult it is. Kudos to him that it sounds like he kept a pretty positive attitude. I’m sure he’ll benefit from it long-term, even if it’s not a good fit for him now.
This is in no way the staffs fault. Bro was a 5 star, staff landed him. He was too unprepared and had far too long of a way to go. I think the best plan is for him to drop down a conference or two and if he can prove himself there he can transfer back up to a P4 school.
 

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I would be very surprised if Omaha dropped down a level. Rather, I think he will go to a program where there are more minutes available. I would also be surprised if Omaha eventually becomes a superstar. Instead I see him as a solid contributor at some point in his career.

I wish Omaha well and hope he achieves all his dreams. By all accounts, he was a great teammate.
 
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I was talking about Fizer when I said he would have never made it to year 3. He would have definitely went portaling after his freshman or sophomore year to some SEC team that gave him huge NIL money. There's no way he would have went through 2 bad seasons like he did then stay for our Elite 8 run in the current landscape.
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And that sucks, and the pendulum has swung too far in the direction of players being disposable parts. Hopefully as things settle down, that pendulum swings back somewhat, but for now it is what it is.

It would be nice, however, if our media coverage and discussion around recruiting HS kids caught up to the reality - which is that 75% of them are practice-squad players who won't make it to their sophomore years.

Isn’t it the opposite? It’s swung towards the players somewhat.

They are now empowered and motivated to leave.
 

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