Iowa State Transfer/Recruiting Class 2024

AuH2O

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They lose Mast as well. There's quite a bit of roster work to do there.
Neb listed him as a Jr this year. Did he have an injury redshirt and get a COVID year?

Even if he has a year I could see him heading back to Europe.
 

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Where exactly are all these minutes to come from. We already have 4 guys coming back that will command 30+ minutes. Then we add Jackson and Watson, along with 3 freshman coming in.

The 3 guys you mentioned are all playing upwards of 30-35 minutes at their old teams. They are going to come here and play what kind of minutes now?

Hadley is already playing heavy minutes at a Power 6 program and his Torvick rating is better than any of our returning guys this year. How is he going to handle the Trey King role playing 18-20 mpg?
They would all come here knowing they are playing 15-20 minutes a game - but they get to play for a Top 10 team and a chance to go to the Final Four. Will it work? Maybe not, but I expect they would come in with eyes wide open
 

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not really anymore, this year Fred actually focused on D and Nebraska was top 50 in adjusted defense. That is one of the reasons they cited as becoming a tourney team, their improved focus on defense.
I saw a lot of Nebraska, living in Omaha. They gave up over 80 points several times. They played a lot of teams that just couldn't score: Minnesota, Penn State, Michigan, Rutgers, Ohio State, Indiana. When you play a lot of those twice, your defensive stats look good, but have little to do with actually playing defense, IMO.
 

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Maybe Heise or Hadley are better than Gilbert or Jones.....

Gilbert and Jones were pretty unknown last year at this time. Who's to say a guy like Hadley, who played 34 m/gm on a P5 team that won 2 games in the tournament, can't come in and start, and play 30+ here.
And if you compare Heise resume with Gilbert or Jones' from last year at this time, they're not much different.
 

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What is the scouting report on Indrusitas? We don't need a starter but it would be nice to get a couple younger guys some minutes for the following season.

Also, I hope Watson can develop some offensive game and shooting.
This is from Bossi on 247

"When it is all said and done, Indrusaitis has the potential to end up as one of the most skilled shooting guards in the class of 2024. At 6-foot-5 he has very good size, he is a good enough athlete and he is wired to score from deep and has an emerging pull-up game.

Currently, the potential is greater than his consistency. During play in Nike's EYBL, Indusraitis only shot 37.5 % from the field -- 40.7% from two and 32.4% from three -- despite having what looks to be pretty technically sound form and a nice looking ball. Part of the issues with consistency have to do with sometimes poor shot selection and that he simply needs to get stronger.

As he gets coached on what is and isn't a good shot and learns to balance his deep shooting with creating opportunities off the bounce, his ceiling is high."

https://playeroftheyear.gatorade.com/winner/nojus-indrusaitis/40238

Press release notes he shot 43% from 3 at Brewster this year.

“His offensive scoring ability is impressive. He’s a three-way scorer who can pull up, hit the 3-pointer and score at the basket. They run a lot of sets and most teams try to pressure you out of the sets. You could never rattle him … He showed up in all their big games. When we did our scouting report, he was the head of the snake for their team.”

Paul Peterson

Head Coach - head coach of Wasatch Academy
 

bawbie

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They lose Mast as well. There's quite a bit of roster work to do there.
They have four transfers out as well, but it looks like only two (Wilcher and Rice) played, the other two didn't play a minute this year.

Mast definitely has a COVID year left
 

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I'll also say, it feels like TJ and Curtis Jones maybe decided that helps the team a bunch of he continues to come off the bench. Which helps the flexibility of lineups a bunch.
 

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That's assuming that Nojus isn't ready to play right away. There's not really room to rotate 5 guys across those 3 spots.

But I agree with the post above that we aren't getting players looking for playing time, we're getting players looking for winning

It's interesting, isn't it? At some point you have to make a play for some continuity pieces. We are set at the backcourt, but those guys wont be here forever. You need a Lipsey who you can count on as a solid for a multi-year period.

So do you give preference to a younger guy knowing if you don't play him he's probably gone? Or do you give that 4th guard spot to someone with more experience who may be in a position to help your team more right away.
 
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I'll also say, it feels like TJ and Curtis Jones maybe decided that helps the team a bunch of he continues to come off the bench. Which helps the flexibility of lineups a bunch.
I could definitely see that if someone like Hadley comes in to play the '3' and Milan starts at the '4' (not that those position designations matter.

I highly doubt a Heise starts over Curtis.
 

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What is the scouting report on Indrusitas? We don't need a starter but it would be nice to get a couple younger guys some minutes for the following season.

Also, I hope Watson can develop some offensive game and shooting.
I’d actually be surprised if Indrusitas doesn’t find his way into the rotation. Dude can ball.
 

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It's interesting, isn't it? At some point you have to make a play for some continuity pieces. We are set at the backcourt, but those guys wont be here forever. You need a Lipsey who you can count on as a solid for a multi-year period.

So do you give preference to a younger guy knowing if you don't play him he's probably gone? Or do you give that 4th guard spot to someone with more experience who may be in a position to help your team more right away.
Given the transfers out - I don't think TJ views this next year as a "continuity" year - it seems to me that he's viewing it as a "all chips on the table" year.

Or maybe that's every year now in the portal era. But last year it seemed he intentionally brought in guys with multiple years to play, and I don't see that this year.
 

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It's interesting, isn't it? At some point you have to make a play for some continuity pieces. We are set at the backcourt, but those guys wont be here forever. You need a Lipsey who you can count on as a solid for a multi-year period.

So do you give preference to a younger guy knowing if you don't play him he's probably gone? Or do you give that 4th guard spot to someone with more experience who may be in a position to help your team more right away.
Heise and hopefully Nojus both work out because that gives you continuity into Lipseys Sr year after Gilbert and Curtis are gone
 

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Given the transfers out - I don't think TJ views this next year as a "continuity" year - it seems to me that he's viewing it as a "all chips on the table" year.

Which makes sense. It could be awhile before this type of setup occurs again, especially if revenue sharing with athletes is near, and we’re instantly unable to pay anything close to P2, even without considering the disadvantages of NIL
 

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We have some good players with elite effort, but do we really have 4 guys that command 30+ minutes?
Lol, what are you talking about. Lipsey, Milan, and Gilbert average over 30mpg the whole year and CuJo averaged almost 30 in Big 12 play. So next year our 4 best players from our Sweet 16 will get less minutes?
Those 4 were absolute ballers and you want to see them less because new guys need more minutes?
 

WastedTalent

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Lol, what are you talking about. Lipsey, Milan, and Gilbert average over 30mpg the whole year and CuJo averaged almost 30 in Big 12 play. So next year our 4 best players from our Sweet 16 will get less minutes?
Those 4 were absolute ballers and you want to see them less because new guys need more minutes?
What if the new guys are better, or at least equal? Why should returnees be locked into a certain amount of playing time?
 

isucy86

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Where exactly are all these minutes to come from. We already have 4 guys coming back that will command 30+ minutes. Then we add Jackson and Watson, along with 3 freshman coming in.

The 3 guys you mentioned are all playing upwards of 30-35 minutes at their old teams. They are going to come here and play what kind of minutes now?

Hadley is already playing heavy minutes at a Power 6 program and his Torvick rating is better than any of our returning guys this year. How is he going to handle the Trey King role playing 18-20 mpg?

It seems like there is a bit of a change in college hoops in regard to minutes. Look at the top teams, we aren't seeing many guys playing 33+mpg. Most teams have 1 or 2 guys in the 30-32mpg range and then the core group of 6 players are getting 15-25mpg.

A lot of bigger named portal guys from last season are playing between 25-28mpg. Plus for a team like Iowa State that plays a trapping defense with a lot of help, the ideal situation would probably mean even guys like Lipsey & Gilbert playing 28-30mpg.

I could easily see the following mpg split:

Post - Jackson, Rock & Portal Tfr (Split 40mpg) / Need a 3rd in case of injury

Lipsey - 30mpg
Momcilovic - 28mpg
Gilbert - 27mpg
Jones - 25mpg
Hadley - 22 mpg
Watson/Heise/Indrusaitis - 28mpg shared

I feel that elite teams, don't have to promise big minutes to really good players. They are making their NIL $ regardless if they play 27 or 30mpg and know that they will have visibility playing more games on national TV games.
 

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Another possibility is that the staff is being realistic that other guys might transfer, e.g. Tamin would be a shock but it's within the realm of possibility that someone throws a bag at Keshon or Curtis and they take it. Of course we all hope that doesn't happen and it's probably unlikely, but it could, and as a staff you'd likely need to consider that.
So you think we could sign Hadley to replace his cousin?
 
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NoCreativity

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What if the new guys are better, or at least equal? Why should returnees be locked into a certain amount of playing time?
Those guys are locked in. Why do you think we were so good this year.

Getting rid of Omaha is one thing but no you seem to be suggesting we recruit over our current starters? I wonder how well that plays out in the locker room when all of a sudden Gilbert is playing 20 minutes instead of 31.
 
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