Beer sign at Jack Trice concessions

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How can you not understand this?

As fans we are told we need to swallow all kinds of garbage that makes the experience worse because the AD needs every dollar it can get. If the AD can make a million or two more from beer sales it absolutely needs to be.

If it’s at the expense of losing out on going out at halftime, I’ll pass
 
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I doubt that's true because I've seen it discussed on here that it would make millions.

The AD would need to go all in. No dipping in a toe.

Price it right. Have the right product. Make it EASILY available. Eliminate contraband beers at the gate. Have enough security, but not so much that drinkers think they're targeted. Restrooms.

I can't imagine it would be a smooth rollout.

My guess is the fans will not like the price or time required to get a beer. Have we ever been happy with concessions at the stadium?
 

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The AD would need to go all in. No dipping in a toe.

Price it right. Have the right product. Make it EASILY available. Eliminate contraband beers at the gate. Have enough security, but not so much that drinkers think they're targeted. Restrooms.

I can't imagine it would be a smooth rollout.

My guess is the fans will not like the price or time required to get a beer. Have we ever been happy with concessions at the stadium?
You mean they would have to actually try? Oh no!!! I guess it's easier to just beg for donations rather than do work.
 
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The AD has an ability to set the expectation for the level of service provided in that contract. The fact that it has been as incompetent at it has been for years says that the AD isn't really putting any pressure on levy in that regard.

What’s an alternate company in Iowa to handle it then? If you have the answer, let JP know.
 

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You mean they would have to actually try? Oh no!!!

You hit the nail on the head. I don't know if JP would actually go all in. He's been resistant to alcohol. Concessions and game entry have been suspect at best.

This is a new era of professional college sports. I want beer. I want it now. I want it to have it without missing the 2nd quarter.

I can already hear the "our vendor couldn't find enough people to work" excuse
 
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Partially, I’m not letting Levy off the hook, but the concessions are mostly handled direct to customer by groups and clubs to make money for said clubs. I’m not against it if this is the way JP wants to go, but at some point, if you are going to complain about keeping up, you have to hire a group/staff to actually get product in people’s hands at a reasonable pace. Right now, ISU doesn’t do that.

That’s again, through Levy. (I worked a year for them while in school, they were terrible then too)
 

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What’s an alternate company in Iowa to handle it then? If you have the answer, let JP know.

1- its not my job to know that answer. This is about as dumb as the people who go "well who else would you hire" when a coaching regime is going bad. One doesn't have to be a chef (or know how to fix the problem) to know when the food is bad.

2- its not necessarily something that needs to be a different company. Do you think the contract is just a 1 page contract that says "you run our concessions and get this amount of money"? A reasonable contract would specify the service level expectations so that both parties are on the same page as far as the service being delivered. The expectations seem extremely minimal when it comes to ours here.
 
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Yet no one can show the math behind this 67% loss from gross.

Iowa, 2021-22:
$3.2M gross sales
~$3M net sales (gross sales minus sales tax)
$1.13M net commission to the AD (~37.5%)
$340k (30%) of the $1.13M net commission to alcohol harm reduction committee programs

Total AD "take-home": ~$790k, or roughly 25% of the gross sales total
 
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Actually it really is a large reason especially when you look at the start up overhead. Most schools barely make a little over a million dollars off it, each year after the first year. The first year is typically a net loss.
That would be a million more than what we are bringing in now. When the athletic department needs every dollar it can get, passing on a million a year is silly.
 

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Iowa, 2021-22:
$3.2M gross sales
~$3M net sales (gross sales minus sales tax)
$1.13M net commission to the AD (~37.5%)
$340k (30%) of the $1.13M net commission to alcohol harm reduction committee programs

Total AD "take-home": ~$790k, or roughly 25% of the gross sales total
There seems to be about 2 million unaccounted for there.
 

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But again, they believe we make more than that off Johnny’s and Sukup.

Seems more likely they just dont want to and created the logic backward from there.

The odds that ISU is some special situation where it wouldnt make money on it but literally every other stadium in the country does is extremely small.
 
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Iowa, 2021-22:
$3.2M gross sales
~$3M net sales (gross sales minus sales tax)
$1.13M net commission to the AD (~37.5%)
$340k (30%) of the $1.13M net commission to alcohol harm reduction committee programs

Total AD "take-home": ~$790k, or roughly 25% of the gross sales total

My word that percentage to the alcohol harm reduction committee seems high.

Has Iowa City seen a spike in alcoholism because fans could get a beer? 1/3 of a million to a committee for doing nothing for revenue generation?

Huh.
 
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My word that percentage to the alcohol harm reduction committee seems high.

Has Iowa City seen a spike in alcoholism because fans could get a beer? 1/3 of a million to a committee for doing nothing for revenue generation?

Huh.

Yeah, that seems like an iowa-specific thing as well. Not that it'd necessarily be something mandatory to also do here.
 

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But again, they believe we make more than that off Johnny’s and Sukup.
I just cannot believe that hundreds of people that are currently buying tickets to Johnny's and the Sukup area would stop doing it just because they could purchase beer without being in one of those areas.

Like I and others have said, areas like the Sukup area offer a lot more than just the ability to purchase alcohol.
 

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