You will never be able to charge a battery that big in 10 min. The amount of heat you would have to dissipate would be insane. Physics is a *****.
When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?
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You will never be able to charge a battery that big in 10 min. The amount of heat you would have to dissipate would be insane. Physics is a *****.
Hey, people will buy anything. As a truck it's "not fit for purpose", as the Brits would say. But it's sort of a weird collectible for a very very VERY small demographic, I guess.
I don't hate them-- I can appreciate the pure weirdness, which the uselessness contributes to. But I can't imagine spending that kind of money, or even any money, on something that's such a wild hair kind of purchase. Even if it was free, you have to garage it, wash it, maintain it, etc etc.
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Rivian 400mile range RS and RT are probably closest to that but way more than 40k. A friend has one but didn't pay the extra for the 400 mile range.
You have to factor in that your first fill up takes 1 or 2 seconds the night before compared to 5-10 minutes driving to a gas station. Then after about 360 miles you'd need about 30 minutes, then about every 340 miles after that another 30 minutes (you're never going to use exactly the full range and the range varies by all sorts of factors). Then if you end up somewhere with a charger at night another 1-2 second fill up that gets you back 5-10 minutes of gas station time.
If you're less particular, can go a little smaller and down to 315 mile range the Chevy Equinox EV is already cheaper than 40k. Blazer EV and Honda Prologue are more like 48k but closer in size to Highlander, both much cheaper than Rivian.
Rivian R2 will be very close to your price but smaller than a Highlnder in a couple years. We'll see what range their various models have but it could be very good.
EV9 has more interior space than Highlander, about that price and good 300ish range, it feels more like a mini-van/SUV combo to me though messing with my neighbor's.
Anybody feel free to correct me, this of off top of my head from research I did a few months ago when I was shopping.
On a road trip this is accurate, you'd still loose 20-25ish minutes to charge even if an affordable electric EV SUV gets to 500mile range unless you're going 400ish miles to your final destination that has a charger, in that case you might gain time or have a push.
It kind of ignores the daily convenience of leaving your home with plenty of fuel every day though.
If you can't charge at home/work, or you're truly doing these 1000 mile single day driving marathons frequently, you probably shouldn't even look at EVs. If you can charge at home and you only drive 1000 miles a day on a handful of occasions per year you might be overestimating how far away it is from being a convenience push.
Ignoring environmental concerns or the "cool factor" of someone just liking EV or liking ICE (it's fine to think either is just cool), the other factor is are you in a high/low gas price state or are you in a high/low electric rate state.
If Elon hadn't ***don't want to cave*** I bet I'd see a ton of hipster goofballs in LA driving Cybertruck already for the "look at me!!!" factor.
As it is, when I do see them they're almost always driven by middle eastern wealthy looking men, of which there are many in SoCal. Rivians are proliferating drastically faster here, especially if you head up to mountain areas where people actually need the utility. I might even say Rivian is the 5th or 6th most common EV make already locally if trend setting counts for anything.
Even if he hadn't ***don't want to cave*** I think the two people I know with Rivian would not have bought a Cybertruck because they'd think it would look too pretentious. (even though they have the money to buy other pretentious things, this one is just too over the top)
Oh I agree 100% that 75%+ of my driving is currently serviced by today's vehicles. I just don't want to pay $60K for leather seats and 175 miles of range in the winter...
I originally put 6-10 years when this thread started and I feel really confident in that timeline given the current inventory available. Being able to buy a 2027 electric car for $30K in 2030 with lower miles seems reasonable versus what currently on the market now.
My daughter came up with a game a while ago for when we are in the car, where you yell out tesla when you see one and you get a point. When it started it was somewhat rare to see one but has become pretty common to see lately. We had to amend the rules where cybertrucks are worth 10 points. We were in Orlando last week and it got pretty competitive because there are a lot of teslas there. We saw 2 cybertrucks and one was in a full woodland camo wrap, it was terrible. My daughter was not very happy when I was the one to call all of the teslas, probably close to 100, at the tesla collision center that we drove by on the last day, I expected her or my wife to pull a Gimli and tell me it still only counts as one.
Apparently someone is buying them. I think last quarter they were the top selling EV truck.
| Electric Truck Sales (Cox Auto) | Q2 2024 | Q2 2023 |
| Tesla Cybertruck | 8,755 | NA |
| Ford F-150 Lightning | 7,902 | 4,466 |
| Rivian R1T | 3,309 | 4,424 |
| Chevy Silverado EV | 2,196 | NA |
| GMC Hummer EV (truck + SUV) | 2,929 | 47 |
Of course a lot of this is pent-up demand.
You can already buy a used long range model 3 or Y, 2-3 years old, with around 30k miles for mid $20k to low $30k.directly from Tesla, cheaper elsewhere. They will have all wheel drive and around 350 miles range.
I think there was a big rush of early adopters and it'll level off like the rest of the EV market.
You're probably right. I wonder how big the wait list is on these things? I saw two in Des yesterday. One plain looking one in Johnston and one in our parking garage at work that has a sweet black wrap. I would hate driving these things but you can help but stare, they are so strange.
I think it's all starting to happen right now. Last time I was looking about 4 years ago there were few options compared to now. It was basically Tesla or a compact like the Bolt or Leaf. Now there are tons more options.
Somebody who just wanted any SUV EV with decent range in a low to mid 30s pricepoint now has Equinox as of just last month. It's kind of a breakthrough in terms of sticker price. Not a large SUV but would work for most. I'm guessing with fuel cost it's one of the more affordable new small SUVs.
Someone who said their family couldn't fit now has EV9 with gigantic interior. Unless one has a family of 8+ it covers that concern.
Even with the high price Rivian covers a lot of things that weren't available before it and it's a more practical vehicle than Cybertruck. R2 could be pretty revolutionary.
It's happening fast. 500 mile range is the part you're a long ways from as long as you adjust for inflation that 40k car today isn't the 40k car of 2029. If you compare like to like the price is starting to get pretty comparable. If we didn't have the tax credit it wouldn't be as close though and only people with really high gas would be looking at potential savings.
I'm in a very bizarre car watching area.
I see high end European sports cars pretty frequently and I see really stupid stuff like people covering a car in velvet. Sometimes just cool weird things like a working DeLoreans, even a DeLorean mocked up to look like an X-Wing with R2D2 in the back.
In terms of EVs I do feel like I see what is 2-3 years ahead of the country. My grocery store went from 8 free chargers totally empty, then about 6-7 years ago all 8 spots always full of Teslas. Then about 2 years ago full of all kinds of makers. Recently it's Kia and Hyundai EVs that seem like the most common new car.
Fiskers were always pretty rare but I did see them and still do sometimes. Rivian were somewhat common as soon as they were available. I've seen exactly one "Vinfast". I wouldn't call Lucid "common" but as of now I'm more likely to see a Lucid than a Cybertruck.
Once again, how many times do you drive 500 miles in one day per year? I do it maybe 4 times a year. So for 361 days a year I'm tugging around a huge battery for no reason. Reminds me of the people that buy those battery bricks for the back of their new $1k iphones.
BTW-For reference, Indianapolis is less than 500 miles away.
If I was really thrifty, I'd buy one of those 10 year old Nissan Leaf's for around $5k. They only have like a 60 mile range, but they'd be perfect for getting back and forth to work.
BTW-For reference, Indianapolis is less than 500 miles away.
If I was really thrifty, I'd buy one of those 10 year old Nissan Leaf's for around $5k. They only have like a 60 mile range, but they'd be perfect for getting back and forth to work.
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Totally agree. I think we are right at the inflection point on the hockey stick.
And I would not have said that 18 months ago, maybe even 12 months ago.
Leasehackr had a deal where you could lease a new leaf one for two years for effectively 210 a month.
I don’t know where you live
Car seat fit is pretty dependent on the car seat. You can fit 3 of the right kind in most cars.
