Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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MHVer throwing out supposed talks of P2 buying their way into the b12 with the p2 assets that they won in court
Let's say they buy their way in for $160 million, thus each gets $10 million each. Say Big 12 gets a tiny bump of $2 million/year, mostly due to the late timeslots. If I did my math right, it would be about 6 years of positive.

I would wait to see if ESPN does anything with the Feb. 2025 ACC look-in provision. If ESPN increases their offer to the ACC then and looks like Clemson and FSU are going to be stuck until 2036, maybe we ask Washington State and Oregon State to join. Strength in numbers.

Still skeptical the 4 corners are in for the long haul. Giving all of them stability now and then adding Washington State and Oregon State could give all 6 time to discuss with the ACC for a 8 team (Cal, Stanford) Western wing.
 
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MHVer throwing out supposed talks of P2 buying their way into the b12 with the p2 assets that they won in court
I thought P2 meant SEC/B1G. This confused tf out of me for a minute.

WSU & OSU... I mean, big state schools. But so isolated and little value add. I don't see how it makes sense unless the ACC folds up, and you end up getting Cal & Stanford, and like 6 other ACC schools out east, and then basically decide the Big12 is going to be 24 teams with three 8-team divisions.
 

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Let's say they buy their way in for $160 million, thus each gets $10 million each. Say Big 12 gets a tiny bump of $2 million/year, mostly due to the late timeslots. If I did my math right, it would be about 6 years of positive.

I would wait to see if ESPN does anything with the Feb. 2025 ACC look-in provision. If ESPN increases their offer to the ACC then and looks like Clemson and FSU are going to be stuck until 2036, maybe we ask Washington State and Oregon State to join. Strength in numbers.

Still skeptical the 4 corners are in for the long haul. Giving all of them stability now and then adding Washington State and Oregon State could give all 6 time to discuss with the ACC for a 8 team (Cal, Stanford) Western wing.
I think it would be more of them taking less for set number of years, like OR and Wash did, or none for set years like SMU did.

My guess is they would take a very low payout for the first year/s and gradually increase to full share.

"IF" they are able to join that is.

To be fair, I think in the last few weeks I saw something about them buying into the ACC too, but that may have been a theory if teams leave the ACC, they may be on the list to fill spots.
 

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I think there could be a positive up side for Oregon State and Washington State playing independent for a few years (as long as they aren't shut out of a playoff possibility). Without conference affiliation, I would think both teams would be in high demand for non conference games against power 4 teams, sorta of like Notre Dame "Lites". Keeping a loose affiliation with the Mountain West, they can create unique schedules that suffice for SOS metrics. Additionally, these two teams could be the first to seek individual school private equity contracts. There's a path to profitability, with less revenue sharing with other programs, it will just require some creativity. Selfishly, I'd like to see them pull independence off, and give the finger to the power conferences for screwing them over.
 

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I think there could be a positive up side for Oregon State and Washington State playing independent for a few years (as long as they aren't shut out of a playoff possibility). Without conference affiliation, I would think both teams would be in high demand for non conference games against power 4 teams, sorta of like Notre Dame "Lites". Keeping a loose affiliation with the Mountain West, they can create unique schedules that suffice for SOS metrics. Additionally, these two teams could be the first to seek individual school private equity contracts. There's a path to profitability, with less revenue sharing with other programs, it will just require some creativity. Selfishly, I'd like to see them pull independence off, and give the finger to the power conferences for screwing them over.

That will never happen, they are outposts that is far from anywhere. Its sucks for them but they will have to settle into the Mountain West and deal with it.
 
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That will never happen, they are outposts that is far from anywhere. Its sucks for them but they will have to settle into the Mountain West and deal with it.
Yeah, I've kind of resigned myself to that as well, but I can always dream! I guess, more realistically, you have to hope that the MWC pull in funding, stay competitive and be the best 5th option. It's a shame they can't monetize the view from their stadiums...some of the best in the country looking out at the mountains.
 

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I thought P2 meant SEC/B1G. This confused tf out of me for a minute.

WSU & OSU... I mean, big state schools. But so isolated and little value add. I don't see how it makes sense unless the ACC folds up, and you end up getting Cal & Stanford, and like 6 other ACC schools out east, and then basically decide the Big12 is going to be 24 teams with three 8-team divisions.
Yeah sorry about that, was reading it in context of PAC 2 so didn’t occur to me
 
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Yeah, I've kind of resigned myself to that as well, but I can always dream! I guess, more realistically, you have to hope that the MWC pull in funding, stay competitive and be the best 5th option. It's a shame they can't monetize the view from their stadiums...some of the best in s the country looking out at the mountains.

I agree and it sucks for them.
 

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Let's say they buy their way in for $160 million, thus each gets $10 million each. Say Big 12 gets a tiny bump of $2 million/year, mostly due to the late timeslots. If I did my math right, it would be about 6 years of positive.

I would wait to see if ESPN does anything with the Feb. 2025 ACC look-in provision. If ESPN increases their offer to the ACC then and looks like Clemson and FSU are going to be stuck until 2036, maybe we ask Washington State and Oregon State to join. Strength in numbers.

Still skeptical the 4 corners are in for the long haul. Giving all of them stability now and then adding Washington State and Oregon State could give all 6 time to discuss with the ACC for a 8 team (Cal, Stanford) Western wing.
I wouldn't worry much about the 4 corners, much like everyone else in the B12, there's just not a better option out there.

Oh, they want to go the SEC or B10? Well, don't we all? Thing is, there's nothing they can do to force the issue, and those two conferences left them on the vine just last year.

Oh, they want to go to the ACC? At best, they're looking at about the same money with the added benefit of more travel and the bonus of whatever happens when the GOR is broken or expires. How will the post-GOR ACC compare to the B12? Probably not favorably, unless the B10 and SEC pass on adding anyone (which seems unlikely).
 
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A....a.....a....Big 12 Network with ESPN??

Well. If ISU is a soft no, then KnappShack (with absolutely no inside information) is also a soft no!
 

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Let's say they buy their way in for $160 million, thus each gets $10 million each. Say Big 12 gets a tiny bump of $2 million/year, mostly due to the late timeslots. If I did my math right, it would be about 6 years of positive.

I would wait to see if ESPN does anything with the Feb. 2025 ACC look-in provision. If ESPN increases their offer to the ACC then and looks like Clemson and FSU are going to be stuck until 2036, maybe we ask Washington State and Oregon State to join. Strength in numbers.

Still skeptical the 4 corners are in for the long haul. Giving all of them stability now and then adding Washington State and Oregon State could give all 6 time to discuss with the ACC for a 8 team (Cal, Stanford) Western wing.
No school in the conference is in for the long haul, every school would jump tomorrow if the B10 or SEC came calling, and would be stupid not too. We do not need to throw a bone to either WSU or OSU, they bring nothing to the conference that we do not now have. It would be nothing but a drain on conference money and add more travel problems.
 

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No school in the conference is in for the long haul, every school would jump tomorrow if the B10 or SEC came calling, and would be stupid not too. We do not need to throw a bone to either WSU or OSU, they bring nothing to the conference that we do not now have. It would be nothing but a drain on conference money and add more travel problems.

Unless that MHvwr3 dude is right and the Big 12 gets the PAC2 Network infrastructure and a path to an ESPN supported network.

However that seems pretty retro in 2024 unless ESPN is trying to stay out of litigation or cockblock Apple/Amazon from college ball.

Any way it's sliced it needs to be beneficial to the current league. The Big 12 need to expand east
 

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Really alll he does is thow **** on the wall and hope it sticks. He has been an idiot for a decade.
I don’t get that impression at all. I’ve enjoyed following him and Jason Scheer on Twitter, among others that share realignment news, rumors, heresy, whatever. Throwing sh*t against the wall has literally been the single theme of realignment, from everyone - including leaders in the proverbial room.
 

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I don’t get that impression at all. I’ve enjoyed following him and Jason Scheer on Twitter, among others that share realignment news, rumors, heresy, whatever. Throwing sh*t against the wall has literally been the single theme of realignment, from everyone - including leaders in the proverbial room.

Well thats a you issue then.
 
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I don’t get that impression at all. I’ve enjoyed following him and Jason Scheer on Twitter, among others that share realignment news, rumors, heresy, whatever. Throwing sh*t against the wall has literally been the single theme of realignment, from everyone - including leaders in the proverbial room.

He does get some things right. He's not Swaim or that other PAC a-hole

 

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