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I thought Glazier was just fine for them at 197. I know Buchanan is a great athlete, but he’s not healthy very often, and his style is pretty boring.

On second thought, he seems to check all the boxes for Iowa these days, I guess.
 
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I thought Glazier was just fine for them at 197. I know Buchanan is a great athlete, but he’s not healthy very often, and his style is pretty boring.

On second thought, he seems to check all the boxes for Iowa these days, I guess.
I'm sure Tom and Terry will make sure to rest him leading up to NCAAs to keep him as healthy as possible :jimlad:
 

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That’s an expensive and questionable decision.
Why questionable? It sucks for me as an ISU fan, but it’s only smart for Iowa. They’re trying to put the best team on the mat as possible and right now they’re not scoring many points at 57 or 97. Teemer and Buchanan change that dramatically.

Have to give them credit for trying to win.
 

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Man as a recruit how could you want to go there? You go grind in that room for years and they are constantly going to buy one year stopgaps instead of trusting/developing talent.
 
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Why questionable? It sucks for me as an ISU fan, but it’s only smart for Iowa. They’re trying to put the best team on the mat as possible and right now they’re not scoring many points at 57 or 97. Teemer and Buchanan change that dramatically.

Have to give them credit for trying to win.
I don't blame Iowa for making the move, but it is a bit of a risk to me from the standpoint that Buchanan has had bad knees/injury issues for a while, and I have seen 6th year guys flame out before. It's a grind wrestling in college, and the Iowa room is not known for training guys to be healthy and peak in March. I also don't think Teemer is a sure thing to be a high AA at 157 again. They are upgrades over who they currently have, but $1M is a lot of $$ to invest in 2 older guys who aren't guarantees to be high AAs.
 

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Why questionable? It sucks for me as an ISU fan, but it’s only smart for Iowa. They’re trying to put the best team on the mat as possible and right now they’re not scoring many points at 57 or 97. Teemer and Buchanan change that dramatically.

Have to give them credit for trying to win.
Spending a million dollars on two oft injured guys going into their 6th and 7th years in college is definitely questionable.

I think they just can’t see the forest for the trees. So busy trying to blow cash to stay competitive, and still not being remotely close, isn’t a long term successful recipe. It’s going to field a good team, but is desperation to stay near the top without fundamentally correcting the issues that keep them behind. Eventually it won’t work.

Last year is a perfect example. Even with Woods/Franek/Caliendo in the lineup, and the attempt for Ferrari, they couldn’t manage a trophy. This year it’ll be Parco/Caliendo plus potentially Teemer/Buchanan as expensive poaches and I’d be stunned if they were within 40-50 points of Penn State.
 

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Fast forward 10-20 yrs. I see this approach Iowa is taking to buy a team every year backfiring. Fans don't don't bond with athletes when you have a turn style approach. Recruiting a kid out of high school, seeing them develop year after year, finally getting their chance, and succeeding is how they built that program. Look at Siebrecht - Lisbon kid, does all the right things, fights his way into the line-up, only to be replaced by a bigger name flash in the pan.

I probably did not articulate it very well, but I do not see their approach being sustainable nor will it build fandom in the long run.
 

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Why questionable? It sucks for me as an ISU fan, but it’s only smart for Iowa. They’re trying to put the best team on the mat as possible and right now they’re not scoring many points at 57 or 97. Teemer and Buchanan change that dramatically.

Have to give them credit for trying to win.
$500k when you already have Glazier there doesn’t seem like the best way to spend money. But it’s not my money.
 

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Fast forward 10-20 yrs. I see this approach Iowa is taking to buy a team every year backfiring. Fans don't don't bond with athletes when you have a turn style approach. Recruiting a kid out of high school, seeing them develop year after year, finally getting their chance, and succeeding is how they built that program. Look at Siebrecht - Lisbon kid, does all the right things, fights his way into the line-up, only to be replaced by a bigger name flash in the pan.

I probably did not articulate it very well, but I do not see their approach being sustainable nor will it build fandom in the long run.
I guess that is possible, but not sure what the answer is these days with the portal. Most of Iowas team will be guys they recruited - Ayala, Block, Kueter, Kennedy, Arnold, Brands, Ferrari. They’re filling in some holes with stop gap transfers.

PSU did it with Truax, ISU did it with Feldkamp. Not sure this is as troublesome long term as you’d hope it is for Iowa. It is the way the landscape is right now, and you’re only falling behind even further if you don’t do it.

Yes, they’re not catching PSU, but no one is. But these guys could be the difference between second and fifth. I think that is a meaningful difference.
 

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I guess that is possible, but not sure what the answer is these days with the portal. Most of Iowas team will be guys they recruited - Ayala, Block, Kueter, Kennedy, Arnold, Brands, Ferrari. They’re filling in some holes with stop gap transfers.

PSU did it with Truax, ISU did it with Feldkamp. Not sure this is as troublesome long term as you’d hope it is for Iowa. It is the way the landscape is right now, and you’re only falling behind even further if you don’t do it.

Yes, they’re not catching PSU, but no one is. But these guys could be the difference between second and fifth. I think that is a meaningful difference.
I mean we beat them last year and probably will again this year so it probably depends on what you consider troublesome for them. The Soldier Salute should be fun again.
 
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I mean we beat them last year and probably will again this year so it probably depends on what you consider troublesome for them. The Soldier Salute should be fun again.
I think it is more troublesome for them to lose to ISU, then it is to take a shot on 2 multiple time high place finishers.

Not saying they’d beat ISU with those guys, but their chances are significantly better.
 

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I guess that is possible, but not sure what the answer is these days with the portal. Most of Iowas team will be guys they recruited - Ayala, Block, Kueter, Kennedy, Arnold, Brands, Ferrari. They’re filling in some holes with stop gap transfers.

PSU did it with Truax, ISU did it with Feldkamp. Not sure this is as troublesome long term as you’d hope it is for Iowa. It is the way the landscape is right now, and you’re only falling behind even further if you don’t do it.

Yes, they’re not catching PSU, but no one is. But these guys could be the difference between second and fifth. I think that is a meaningful difference.
I realize my bias, but I don't see what Iowa is doing as just "filling in some holes". If reports about how they are doing it (tampering) and the amount of $$$ being thrown around are true it is a house of cards that will eventually come crashing down.

Iowa wrestling is reaching Texas football level of absurdity in regard to the win at all cost mindset. Throw Michigan in this convo, too.