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[wxman1]

Had an interesting discussion with my manager yesterday. Basically a quietly kept company policy that your kids can't interfere with your WFH work. The example she gave was my kids walking in behind me to ask me something while I was on a call this summer. I don't necessarily disagree but personally believe there is more nuance to stuff like that than what a black and white policy provides.

 

[Messi]

Had an interesting discussion with my manager yesterday. Basically a quietly kept company policy that your kids can't interfere with your WFH work. The example she gave was my kids walking in behind me to ask me something while I was on a call this summer. I don't necessarily disagree but personally believe there is more nuance to stuff like that than what a black and white policy provides.

internal or external call?

if internal, thats overreaction from manager

if external, i think there's a level of professionalism to upkeep with customer

 

[jsb]

Had an interesting discussion with my manager yesterday. Basically a quietly kept company policy that your kids can't interfere with your WFH work. The example she gave was my kids walking in behind me to ask me something while I was on a call this summer. I don't necessarily disagree but personally believe there is more nuance to stuff like that than what a black and white policy provides.

1. It sounds like your kids weren't interfering.

2. I'm shocked that this is a quietly kept policy. Seems pretty standard to me. If you have kids that are at home that require child care, then you have to have child care other than the parent who is working.

 

[cowgirl836]

Had an interesting discussion with my manager yesterday. Basically a quietly kept company policy that your kids can't interfere with your WFH work. The example she gave was my kids walking in behind me to ask me something while I was on a call this summer. I don't necessarily disagree but personally believe there is more nuance to stuff like that than what a black and white policy provides.

If they pull that ****, then it should apply to coworkers too. The number of times I was interrupted by Mr. Dunning-Kruger Peter Principle to blather on about stupid **** when I was in the office was far worse. Or the ******* playlist of 10 1950's songs they played nonstop over the speakers and pushed "no headphone use" at the same time. Just another way to try and push caretakers out. This type of policy assumes the ideal worker is a single and childless. Again, are you getting the work done you need to get done? Yes or no? Then stop micromanaging people. JFC.

 

[cowgirl836]

1. It sounds like your kids weren't interfering.

2. I'm shocked that this is a quietly kept policy. Seems pretty standard to me. If you have kids that are at home that require child care, then you have to have child care other than the parent who is working.

I read it as older kids - most places require you have childcare while working, which I get. But for school age kids, random sick days and such - like give it a break. Now I would agree with Messi that important calls, clients, you shut the door and give the kid a screen but sometimes **** happens.

 

[wxman1]

internal or external call?

if internal, thats overreaction from manager

if external, i think there's a level of professionalism to upkeep with customer

Internal

1. It sounds like your kids weren't interfering.

2. I'm shocked that this is a quietly kept policy. Seems pretty standard to me. If you have kids that are at home that require child care, then you have to have child care other than the parent who is working.

Not interfering more than someone stopping by my cube if I was in the office.

If they pull that ****, then it should apply to coworkers too. The number of times I was interrupted by Mr. Dunning-Kruger Peter Principle to blather on about stupid **** when I was in the office was far worse. Or the ******* playlist of 10 1950's songs they played nonstop over the speakers and pushed "no headphone use" at the same time. Just another way to try and push caretakers out. This type of policy assumes the ideal worker is a single and childless. Again, are you getting the work done you need to get done? Yes or no? Then stop micromanaging people. JFC.

My manager was informing me more out of a courtesy and because she doesn't think it should be kept quiet. She has no issues with me or what we do with the kids but it sounds like it was somewhat used against a coworker with being forced into a demotion type of situation. Our youngest goes to daycare year round and the older two we get a summer nanny for 2-3 days a week.

 

[cowgirl836]

Internal

Not interfering more than someone stopping by my cube if I was in the office.

My manager was informing me more out of a courtesy and because she doesn't think it should be kept quiet. She has no issues with me or what we do with the kids but it sounds like it was somewhat used against a coworker with being forced into a demotion type of situation. Our youngest goes to daycare year round and the older two we get a summer nanny for 2-3 days a week.

yeah I figured there was some **** in there somewhere.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Internal

Not interfering more than someone stopping by my cube if I was in the office.

My manager was informing me more out of a courtesy and because she doesn't think it should be kept quiet. She has no issues with me or what we do with the kids but it sounds like it was somewhat used against a coworker with being forced into a demotion type of situation. Our youngest goes to daycare year round and the older two we get a summer nanny for 2-3 days a week.

This is insane (not you or your kid, your work). Did anyone lose any money over it? **** those people.

 

[Big Daddy Kang]

If they pull that ****, then it should apply to coworkers too. The number of times I was interrupted by Mr. Dunning-Kruger Peter Principle to blather on about stupid **** when I was in the office was far worse. Or the ******* playlist of 10 1950's songs they played nonstop over the speakers and pushed "no headphone use" at the same time. Just another way to try and push caretakers out. This type of policy assumes the ideal worker is a single and childless. Again, are you getting the work done you need to get done? Yes or no? Then stop micromanaging people. JFC.

why you so mad? be a boss or stfu.

not that you would know but heavy lies the crown.

 

[JP4CY]

why you so mad? be a boss or stfu.

not that you would know but heavy lies the crown.

Why are you so mad?

 

[carvers4math]

Well for ***** sake. Half the reason why I'd work in the office is for my corpse to be found in a reasonable amount of time....

It was super important for her to be in office to collaborate. Probably added a lot more than others while dead.

 

[CycloneDaddy]

Well for ***** sake. Half the reason why I'd work in the office is for my corpse to be found in a reasonable amount of time....

FML … Now Im going to have to create a new control which will make me open a new Corrective Action that Im going to have to link to a new issue. Then Im going to have internal audit up my ass making sure this manual control is functioning as attended. All because someone died on a Friday and some minimum wage security guard didnt do their job.

 

[Big Daddy Kang]

Why are you so mad?

because i provide jobs for families and lazy ingrates like you and cowgirl and i get no thanks for it.

 

[KnappShack]

because i provide jobs for families and lazy ingrates like you and cowgirl and i get no thanks for it.

So you provide these jobs out of the goodness of your heart and not financial gain!!!!

Hats off to you and that heavy crown.

 

[JP4CY]

because i provide jobs for families and lazy ingrates like you and cowgirl and i get no thanks for it.

What's your company? I'd like to thank you for the service you provide if you show that to me.

 

[KnappShack]

What's your company? I'd like to thank you for the service you provide if you show that to me.

And if you own the place and wield power worthy of a crown then why bother with "internal audit"?

They should bow down to the job creator!!

 

[JP4CY]

Had an interesting discussion with my manager yesterday. Basically a quietly kept company policy that your kids can't interfere with your WFH work. The example she gave was my kids walking in behind me to ask me something while I was on a call this summer. I don't necessarily disagree but personally believe there is more nuance to stuff like that than what a black and white policy provides.

Do you have a headset on?
There are some handy ones that glow red or green when you're on it or not.

 

[Clonehomer]

I read it as older kids - most places require you have childcare while working, which I get. But for school age kids, random sick days and such - like give it a break. Now I would agree with Messi that important calls, clients, you shut the door and give the kid a screen but sometimes **** happens.

Agreed. Our policy is written as black and white. But, it really makes a difference if this is the occasional kid is home sick vs a weekly thing. And are your kids old enough to be self sufficient or do they need attention. I’ll stay home with an 8 year old, but I’m just there in case the house catches on fire. He’ll pretty much take care of himself. But, as written, since he is only 8 he’s a dependent and that would be against the rules.

But the people who abuse it to avoid daycare costs for young kids cause companies to avoid playing in that gray area.

 

[BCClone]

If they pull that ****, then it should apply to coworkers too. The number of times I was interrupted by Mr. Dunning-Kruger Peter Principle to blather on about stupid **** when I was in the office was far worse. Or the ******* playlist of 10 1950's songs they played nonstop over the speakers and pushed "no headphone use" at the same time. Just another way to try and push caretakers out. This type of policy assumes the ideal worker is a single and childless. Again, are you getting the work done you need to get done? Yes or no? Then stop micromanaging people. JFC.

Maybe they just want the happiest workers, hence childless ones. .

 

[jsb]

I read it as older kids - most places require you have childcare while working, which I get. But for school age kids, random sick days and such - like give it a break. Now I would agree with Messi that important calls, clients, you shut the door and give the kid a screen but sometimes **** happens.

I agree. If your kid could pretty much stay home alone during the day if you had to run into the office, then you don't need child care.