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Beating EIU does not make this a great game or make our season, yes, we had a great comeback, but I see where we can improve and get better. You only do that by critically looking at your mistakes and how you can improve them. Not by saying its a great win, we beat EIU, lets call it a season.
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So now he was changing the play, but it was from the coaching staff. ISU was back up in the loadest part of the stadium, and we didn't like the look on 3rd and 2 from the nine yard line, then take a timeout and talk about it, or better yet, come up with a different play that is not running the ball straight at an 8 man box on that call. Spread them out and run some type of RPO.

On Saturday we spent the first quarter and a half trying to run the ball with very little success into a stack box, only when we started spreading them out did we find success. Everyone knows what EIU is going to do and how they defend, how about stop playing like b10 west teams and trying to run through it and do something different? Go back and watch the video, EIU was putting 7 to 8 guys on the LOS on first and second down, getting us into third and long and forcing us to pass. That is their MO, that is why they are successful, you have to either have the line like Michigan or Ohio State has to beat them at their own game, which we do not, or spread them out and attack the corners.
In the first half, only 2 of 8 third downs were longer than five yards before penalties. Both of those sets of downs had a run on first down and a pass on second down.
 

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On the play Rocco threw his pick we had a guy going deep wide open. Rocco just missed the read.
I noticed this too watching the replay. Looked like Iowa messed up their assignment and someone (can tell who it was - maybe Higgins) ran straight down the seam and had no one within 10 yards of him.

Think Rocco was locked into Noel from before the snap.

Otherwise, he seemed pretty patient and had an awesome game. To points made above, not a great situation for him first few drives but responded really well and was awesome in the second half.

That pass to Noel to set up the FG was a beautiful call and perfect execution.
 
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True and it does not matter, we did not execute a simple play with 3rd and 2 to go, we had two motion penalties, that is what go us into trouble, backing us back to the one yard line again.
If we want to go where we think this team can go, then we have to make more plays and fewer mistakes. Saturday we made a couple mistakes and EIU allowed us to stick around, get out barrings and could not bury us. Teams like Utah and KSU will not do the same, instead of going into half down 13 we will be going into half down 21/24 points.

Disagree. EIU didn't let us stick around, our defense locked down until the offense got going.

And it's its the 2nd game of the year we are still working out the bugs have some patience and faith.

Now that we beat Iowa, you are going to make KSU the team to fear?
 

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Beating EIU does not make this a great game or make our season, yes, we had a great comeback, but I see where we can improve and get better. You only do that by critically looking at your mistakes and how you can improve them. Not by saying its a great win, we beat EIU, lets call it a season.

I am sure the actual coaches see that too. But thanks,
 
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Well I know I can sleep better at night knowing that 1SEIACLONE has broken down the tape. Be sure to submit your findings to Coach Campbell.
I guess my day is fine, knowing that Clonefan32 is great beating EIU and the rest of the schedule does not matter. You are talking just exactly like and EIU fan, what is next, telling us to "make something of this win?".
 

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I guess my day is fine, knowing that Clonefan32 is great beating EIU and the rest of the schedule does not matter. You are talking just exactly like and EIU fan, what is next, telling us to "make something of this win?".

I mean it's not exactly OUR job to game plan or coach so I don't understand you how think you pointing out mistakes and things that can be improved upon is going to help the team improve.

You really think Campbell and staff aren't watching the game tape and going through it with a fine tooth comb?
 

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He saw one play on the TV broadcast where he's pretty sure someone was open but Rocco threw a pick and because of that we were supposed to be running all-go's the entire game because everyone would have been wide open deep. Keep up.
Clueless as usual, go back and watch the play, the slot receiver is wide open, we are not running 4 deep there. Becht was throwing it Noel the entire time, drawing 3 EIU players to the spot and its an int.
Without a doubt the coaches saw the exact same thing and Becht did not repeat the mistake again.
 

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I mean it's not exactly OUR job to game plan or coach so I don't understand you how think you pointing out mistakes and things that can be improved upon is going to help the team improve.

You really think Campbell and staff aren't watching the game tape and going through it with a fine tooth comb?
Raise your hand if you think that dude bet a pretty penny on Iowa winning and is still grieving....
 

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There are three weaknesses to the cover 2 look that Iowa runs..
  1. Left Sideline between 8-20 yards
  2. Right Sideline between 8-20 yards
    1. This is where Rocco hit Noel on the last drive
  3. Deep middle
    1. Where Rocco hit Noel as OP stated
All three weaknesses in their coverage require extreme precision via timing and accuracy. We ahppen to have two NFL WR's and Rocco is trending towards an NFL roster as well (Helps to have Purdy balling as an example)
 

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Totally disagree, go back and watch the int that Becht throw in the 2nd series. We are at the 11 yard line, we spread them out, the EIU defense is confused, the ball is snapped and Becht given plenty of time in pocket is staring down the receiver the entire way, drawing three people to the ball and its an INT. Now go watch the video again, look at the slot receiver on the top, he is wide open, and past his man. Horrible read by Becht, hit the guy running free and its an 89 yard TD. Its not throwing the ball that got Becht in trouble, it was him locking onto a receiver and not scanning the field.

Unless you have a great OL, most QB’s don’t have time to scan the field each play. Especially when you are backed up and can’t afford to take a sack. You hit the target the play was designed for or hit your check down.

As for changing the play on 3rd and 2 you keep talking about, don’t you think that maybe after seeing Iowa lined up the staff realized the play wasn’t going to work? I don’t think they planned on the false starts. It’s pretty typical to not air it out inside your own 10.
 

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I mean it's not exactly OUR job to game plan or coach so I don't understand you how think you pointing out mistakes and things that can be improved upon is going to help the team improve.

You really think Campbell and staff aren't watching the game tape and going through it with a fine tooth comb?
Its called being an informed fan and trying to figure out what we are doing out there, and just not sitting and drinking beer throughout the game. No one is saying the coaches are not watching, its a learning experience for all the players and this is how they learn.

Poor to average QB's do not learn from their mistakes and continue to repeat them. Very good to great QB's learn from them, do the little things like looking away and scanning the field. Becht is still learning, but that was a horrible mistake and I am sure he was pissed about it himself.

Look at Purdy, the knock on him at ISU was he would made great plays and then make a bone head play that hurt the team. I remember watching an interview with him before his senior year, and that was what he was going to work on. Still did it that year, now look at him, same arm strength, better players around him, but he has stopped making the silly play, not trying to do too much and just playing in the system. That is what we need Becht to do, he did it the 2nd half, we need him to do it the entire game to win the B12.
 

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Unless you have a great OL, most QB’s don’t have time to scan the field each play. Especially when you are backed up and can’t afford to take a sack. You hit the target the play was designed for or hit your check down.

As for changing the play on 3rd and 2 you keep talking about, don’t you think that maybe after seeing Iowa lined up the staff realized the play wasn’t going to work? I don’t think they planned on the false starts. It’s pretty typical to not air it out inside your own 10.
EIU did not record a sack on Saturday, the line was giving him plenty of time and he had a nice pocket throw out of. The mistake was looking down the receiver the entire time and not scanning the field. We see it happen all the time in football, a QB looking at his target the entire route and when he does, it draws the defenders to the ball.
 

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Its called being an informed fan and trying to figure out what we are doing out there, and just not sitting and drinking beer throughout the game. No one is saying the coaches are not watching, its a learning experience for all the players and this is how they learn.

Poor to average QB's do not learn from their mistakes and continue to repeat them. Very good to great QB's learn from them, do the little things like looking away and scanning the field. Becht is still learning, but that was a horrible mistake and I am sure he was pissed about it himself.

Look at Purdy, the knock on him at ISU was he would made great plays and then make a bone head play that hurt the team. I remember watching an interview with him before his senior year, and that was what he was going to work on. Still did it that year, now look at him, same arm strength, better players around him, but he has stopped making the silly play, not trying to do too much and just playing in the system. That is what we need Becht to do, he did it the 2nd half, we need him to do it the entire game to win the B12.
Are you ok? It’s a long season and you legitimately worked up this morning over one single missed play in a 60 minute game with multiple momentum shifts, missed plays, made plays, ect. It’s going to be a very long season for you if this is how you react after a win in week 2.
 

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Its called being an informed fan and trying to figure out what we are doing out there, and just not sitting and drinking beer throughout the game. No one is saying the coaches are not watching, its a learning experience for all the players and this is how they learn.

Poor to average QB's do not learn from their mistakes and continue to repeat them. Very good to great QB's learn from them, do the little things like looking away and scanning the field. Becht is still learning, but that was a horrible mistake and I am sure he was pissed about it himself.

Look at Purdy, the knock on him at ISU was he would made great plays and then make a bone head play that hurt the team. I remember watching an interview with him before his senior year, and that was what he was going to work on. Still did it that year, now look at him, same arm strength, better players around him, but he has stopped making the silly play, not trying to do too much and just playing in the system. That is what we need Becht to do, he did it the 2nd half, we need him to do it the entire game to win the B12.

You want to be informed then here's the first thing you need to know - Not every play is executed perfectly and works.

Once you understand that we can move on to lesson #2.
 

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I guess my day is fine, knowing that Clonefan32 is great beating EIU and the rest of the schedule does not matter. You are talking just exactly like and EIU fan, what is next, telling us to "make something of this win?".

We aren’t the coaches and therefore this type of analysis is not helpful.