Cyclones #18 in AP Poll

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They will still rise or fall based off of winning though. If they finish 11-1, their ranking will be justified. If they slip to 8-4, they will slip and not be a factor. That just never bothers me at all. If ISU or any other major team just wins their games, they will sky rocket up the rankings and pass the other teams who lose games. If ISU is 13-0 or 12-1, they will be ranked really high, and where they started (not ranked) will not matter.
What if ND is 9-3, and ISU ends up 11-2 ?
 
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What if ND is 9-3 or 10-4, and ISU ends up 11-2 ?
ISU and ND pre-season rankings would have zero effect on that. I am fairly certain that ISU @ 11-2 (which means they were in the Big Xii Championship Game) would be ranked ahead of ND with 3 losses and definitely ahead of ND with 4 losses.
 

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These rankings are meaningless, playoff rankings are all that matter. No, ap and coaches have zero impact on playoff rankings.
True but if you highly ranked in the AP, you are going to be highly ranked when the playoff committee releases their rankings. We are already hurt by being a no name school, we need to move up the polls as high as possible before the rankings are released.
 
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True but if you highly ranked in the AP, you are going to be highly ranked when the playoff committee releases their rankings. We are already hurt by being a no name school, we need to move up the polls as high as possible before the rankings are released.
No, that’s the point. At least as ISU has been concerned in the past, the AP has appeared to have no bearing on the playoff rankings. Which means preseason and early season rankings had no bearing.

There’s obviously correlation between AP and the playoff ranking. But the hand wringing by our fans about the AP and early season poll inertia has been unwarranted. The CFP rankings have always been favorable to ISU relative to the AP by a lot.

The Coaches poll is garbage, and the AP isn’t much better. I just haven’t seen any indication of the CFP rankings being out of whack in a way that suggests AP poll influence.
 

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What if ND is 9-3, and ISU ends up 11-2 ?
ND is out due to the horrific northern Illinois loss and most likely 2 more unranked losses unless it’s Clemson with very few good/great wins.

ISU is in either as an at large (one loss would have been in the championship game to a most likely ranked team) or is in for winning the championship and getting the auto

Again with only 4 weeks down there is so much left to go. But you have to sadly cheer for Iowa to keep winning and most likely Utah. KSU and OSU don’t look like they are going to stay ranked much longer unless it was just a down week which makes things harder.
 

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ND is out due to the horrific northern Illinois loss and most likely 2 more unranked losses unless it’s Clemson with very few good/great wins.

ISU is in either as an at large (one loss would have been in the championship game to a most likely ranked team) or is in for winning the championship and getting the auto

Again with only 4 weeks down there is so much left to go. But you have to sadly cheer for Iowa to keep winning and most likely Utah. KSU and OSU don’t look like they are going to stay ranked much longer unless it was just a down week which makes things harder.
You ain't the boss of me!
If they win, they win. If they lose, they lose. But I don't have to cheer for them, sadly, happily, or any other way. :D
 

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ND is out due to the horrific northern Illinois loss and most likely 2 more unranked losses unless it’s Clemson with very few good/great wins.

ISU is in either as an at large (one loss would have been in the championship game to a most likely ranked team) or is in for winning the championship and getting the auto

Again with only 4 weeks down there is so much left to go. But you have to sadly cheer for Iowa to keep winning and most likely Utah. KSU and OSU don’t look like they are going to stay ranked much longer unless it was just a down week which makes things harder.
It would not shock me if the committee put in a 10-2 Iowa team (losses to ISU and OSU) over an 11-2 ISU team, despite the head to head.
 

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ND is out due to the horrific northern Illinois loss and most likely 2 more unranked losses unless it’s Clemson with very few good/great wins.

ISU is in either as an at large (one loss would have been in the championship game to a most likely ranked team) or is in for winning the championship and getting the auto

Again with only 4 weeks down there is so much left to go. But you have to sadly cheer for Iowa to keep winning and most likely Utah. KSU and OSU don’t look like they are going to stay ranked much longer unless it was just a down week which makes things harder.
I think a 3 loss ND team would get in before a 2 loss ISU team that doesn’t win the Big 12.

Also, most 3 loss B1G/SEC teams would jump a 2 loss ISU team too.

I’m just preparing myself for the Big 12 to get screwed as usual.
 
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I'm still giving the teams "the eyeball test". These rankings will sort themselves out as the games are played. There's no one in the Big12 we can't beat from what I've seen, and the conference should only get at max 2 teams into the playoffs. Kstate or Oky State would have to win out and that's not happening after next weekend. BYU/Utah still have the Holy War. Utah, ISU, UCF, and BYU are what's left that still have a shot in the Big12 with the games already played up to this point.
 

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Still two morons that don't have ISU ranked. There are not even close to 25 other teams with a better resume thus far.
 

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No, that’s the point. At least as ISU has been concerned in the past, the AP has appeared to have no bearing on the playoff rankings. Which means preseason and early season rankings had no bearing.

There’s obviously correlation between AP and the playoff ranking. But the hand wringing by our fans about the AP and early season poll inertia has been unwarranted. The CFP rankings have always been favorable to ISU relative to the AP by a lot.

The Coaches poll is garbage, and the AP isn’t much better. I just haven’t seen any indication of the CFP rankings being out of whack in a way that suggests AP poll influence.
Nothing wrong with being excited over moving up in the polls, its always better be ranked that not ranked. The polls will figure themselves out as the season progresses. Keep winning and we keep moving up, maybe we can have a season like EIU had in 2015 where they kept winning and at the end of the season were ranked in the top 5 before the conference championships and had beaten no one.
 
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That's how I look at it really. There's 5 games they will be heavily/decently favored, 3 games that are basically toss ups, and Utah mild dog. That sounds like ~6 more wins, more with good luck/develpment, less with bad luck.
 
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Looks like we’re more likely to go undefeated than we are to miss a bowl. I bet that hasn’t been the case very many times in ISU history.

When your program has a .458 winning percentage, has had 5 10-loss seasons in the last 30 years, and never achieved double-digit wins in a season that seems a safe bet.

That 6-6 is labeled “melt down” is just ******* glorious. Campbell is the best hire in ISU history.
 

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I'm not normally superstitious, but I don't like all of this talk about ISU potentially making the playoffs. We haven't played a conference game yet. I still have flashbacks from 1980 when ISU was 5-0 and had outscored its opponents 179 to 27. Fans were throwing oranges on field symbolizing our hopes of winning the Big 8 and going to the Orange Bowl. We lost the next five games and finished the season 6-5. I'm not saying that's going to happen this year, but I like taking it one game at a time and not get ahead of ourselves. Maybe I'm jaded as a long-time Cyclone fan, but I like keeping our expectations in check and enjoying our successes as they come.
 
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It would not shock me if the committee put in a 10-2 Iowa team (losses to ISU and OSU) over an 11-2 ISU team, despite the head to head.
Not a chance. Iowa would have no notable wins. I will go one step further. ISU at 10-2 or 10-3 would also be ranked ahead of a 10-2 or 10-3 Iowa in the final rankings.
 
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True but if you highly ranked in the AP, you are going to be highly ranked when the playoff committee releases their rankings. We are already hurt by being a no name school, we need to move up the polls as high as possible before the rankings are released.

AP voters correcting their rankings the week after the first playoff poll comes out has turned in to quite the tradition.
 

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Not a chance. Iowa would have no notable wins. I will go one step further. ISU at 10-2 or 10-3 would also be ranked ahead of a 10-2 or 10-3 Iowa in the final rankings.
It won't matter if Iowa has any notable wins. Virtually every SEC/B1G team with two losses or fewer will make the playoff. Wins over Wisconsin/Nebby/Washington/MSU will be billed as quality victories and the P2 circle jerk will continue.