UNLV QB is leaving the program immediately due to the school not withholding NIL commitments

[FriendlySpartan]

Jimbo and Willie Taggert ran that program into the ground, not many coaches would come in and win right away. Which he didn’t. Then he brings in quick talent, in your words, he struck gold multiple times in the transfer portal and went 20-3 but that’s not the right way to have regular success so what do you want him to do? Keep losing?

Regarding seasons and wins against ranked teams. You could say that about any 5-10 coaches at any time. Hell, Matt Rhule has beaten like 2 ranked teams his entire collegiate coaching career.

Unless they go like 1-11. Or he gets caught being a perv. His seat is not insanely hot.

That’s the point. He is 1-3 this season with some inexcusable losses. Add that to his starting record and he really only has one year where he got super lucky as a bench mark for success. I wouldn’t bet on him getting fired but yes, his seat is insanely hot, to think otherwise doesn’t make sense.

His coaching track record before FSU was only G5.

 

[fsanford]

This one makes far more sense and is far more common. A guy comes in expecting to start, ends up a backup, and decides not to use a year of eligibility in that rorole

Agree think this is more about sucking and hoping to get 1 more year somewhere else.

But writers put it out there for clickbait given other story. Some people will bite.

 

[AuH2O]

1. $110M is revenue not net income.

2. $30k, hahahahaha, you think ISU is going to get a good player for $30k salary.

3. What about walkons are they still slaves or are they paid employees too?

4. Health insurance will be a major expense too.

5. Since they are now state of Iowa employees don't forget IPERs (retirement plan).

1. Yes, it is revenue/gross not net. Expenses tend to be about the same.

2. The key point is collectively bargained stipend. Not agree to an open market of salary. It’s only valid in the former. At that time the allowed stipend was as $0.

3. What percent of walk-ons are getting NIL across all the sports? I’d guess a tiny percentage. So they prob don’t get paid in this scenario either, or at least at a drastically reduced rate. Personally I think there should at least be SOMETHING of a stipend pool for programs to use for walk-ons to earn. Even if it is very little, it's better than what they have typically gotten. I suppose there are some walk-ons that never earn a scholarship that do earn NIL that this would hurt. But I suspect that is a very small number.

4 and 5. Correct, I should’ve accounted for additional employer expenses. Maybe a stipend of 28-30k equates to a total cost to ISU of $37-42k. So maybe a $7-8.5 million annual expense. So maybe more like 6-7% of their budget has to be trimmed, again assuming none of the NIL is diverted AD donations.

Also, look at college athletics departments expenses vs revenues. Notice how the magically tend to track super close to each other, despite the revenues changing a lot? Do you think that's because every year every expense is absolutely critical and they're so fortunate that revenues magically go up just the right amount they needed to avoid catastrophe? Pretty obvious most ADs spend whatever revenue they get.

So I'm not buying going from available revenue of $110M and shaving $8M off the top for stipends, insurance, IPERS etc. is going to bankrupt an athletic department. That is not ideal. But for the majority of programs that don't have massive boosters, it's probably better than the current wild west in the long-run.

 

[jcisuclones]

Unlvrebelgrl is having a meltdown

 

[ClubCy]

That’s the point. He is 1-3 this season with some inexcusable losses. Add that to his starting record and he really only has one year where he got super lucky as a bench mark for success. I wouldn’t bet on him getting fired but yes, his seat is insanely hot, to think otherwise doesn’t make sense.

His coaching track record before FSU was only G5.

I’m thinking we have slightly different definitions on hot seat since you wouldn’t bet on him getting fired. I am more his seat is beginning to get “uncomfortable” not yet insanely hot. Now if next year goes bad, yeah he’s gone. That I will agree with.

 

[Tre4ISU]

I wouldnt be so sure. Can Norvel save his ass? Doubt it.

Yeah, I had a momentary lapse in thought. I forgot ADs rarely do things that make any sort of sense.

 

[EnkAMania]

Unlvrebelgrl is having a meltdown

Should I poke the bear and reply, "If Otzelberger was coach, this never would have happened."

 

[MugNight]

This one makes far more sense and is far more common. A guy comes in expecting to start, ends up a backup, and decides not to use a year of eligibility in that role.

Do you think we will ever get to a point where everyone gets a Redshirt year, ala Covid? Basically a free 5th year to cash in if wanted.

 

[khardbored]

Should the title remove the word "not"?

I mean, they are withholding.

(Possibly with an allegedly or something. Maybe)

 

[pourcyne]

Methinks UNLV had best be looking for other (and better) lawyers to do their NIL contracts, especially the termination and early-termination clauses.

 

[WISCY1895]

Ooof

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Ooof

Ok so something bigger is going on here

 

[Gunnerclone]

Ok so something bigger is going on here

Idk but this feels like a Dam breaker for the entire G5.

 

[ScottyP]

If Sluka didn’t get a deal in writing, the agent didn’t do a very good job.

 

[2speedy1]

Sounds like a great agent. Did he get them to pinky swear and make sure they weren’t crossing their fingers behind their back?

Well technically a verbal agreement is an agreement and many times would hold up in court, at least to a point. The issue will be ones word against the other, unless there is any proof or witnesses to the agreement.
I can argue this entire thing several ways.

My hope is with all of this and the new profit sharing etc a contract system is enacted that force both sides to uphold certain agreements. Also making the transfer portal a more fair system, similar to contracts and trades and buyouts in all the other major pro sports.

 

[2speedy1]

Ok so something bigger is going on here

Sounds to me like the coaches were promising a lot of things that the school and NIL collective did not know about or agree to.

There are just not enough checks and balances in the system as it is right now, to prevent a lot of issues.

 

[fsanford]

Ok so something bigger is going on here

4th string RB who has 6 carries per game is probably not transferring due to NIL. Most likely hoping to find another school where he might get playing time before his career ends.


Thus the decision to redshirt to buy another year. He knows he will not see the field where he is at.

 

[cydsho]

I'm shocked that with agents now heavily involved we're seeing problems like this.
Maybe we need to throw some lawyers in to clean it up!

 

[FriendlySpartan]

4th string RB who has 6 carries per game is probably not transferring due to NIL. Most likely hoping to find another school where he might get playing time before his career ends.


Thus the decision to redshirt to buy another year. He knows he will not see the field where he is at.

Ohhh smart call. I jumped to conclusions based on the QB and thought he was in the two deep

 

[ClonerJams]

Lots of he said/she said. If a collective or coaching staff promises a certain amount of $ to a player, you better honor that commitment otherwise it will blow up in your face.

If you're a player agreeing to play for a school for a certain amount of $, then you better get that in writing.