JTS Improvements - Want More
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Such a wasted opportunity to make better use of that space, instead it's an eyesore
I guess now that you mention it they probably could have put a tube down there and covered it, or something along those lines. I’m no expert by any means and maybe there’s a reason not to with flood issues.
Damn yeah. I guess there was a ditch there before but that's kinda lame. Maybe the ditches will be festooned with native marsh and prairie flowers and look pretty....
I'm no engineering expert, but my guess is that in the event of a flood, the exposed drainage allows for backwaters to fill the parking lots rather than storm drains further away in residential/commercial areas.
An open ditch can handle a lot more water than a tube, in most cases. I am sure it has to do with cost as well, especially getting a big enough tube system to handle the amount of water predicted. Water moves to a ditch much easier than surface drains as well, which cause slowdown in drainage. And with the massive paved lots during heavy rain you could have surface flooding issues if the water cant drain fast enough. Which obviously would not be good for anyone parked there or the businesses.
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It's surprising that there isn't more being done with permeable paving in parking lots coupled with tiling under the permeable paving. I've seen more permeable paving lately but I think they usually just rely on absorption rather than helping the excess water away like tiling would.
Could it be landscapedbetter? Yes, I'm sure it will be. Have you ever tried to build a building with a tremendous amount of green space and a large area sealed with hard surfaces like concrete or asphalt? You have to provide for water runoff. I am not a civil engineer, but I'm sure there's somebody on here that is. Anytime there's new construction with water run off there has to be holding areas. It's code in the vast majority of the US.
They are not done with it yet..... check out the Cytown Webcam.
I've heard that permeable pavement is just too costly for what it offers. Especially in area that freeze and reduce the lifespan of the pavement.
Hearing they are putting in a lighted dance floor to enhance the gameday tailgating experience.
Permeable pavement takes a lot of maintenance to be effective. The voids in the pavement fill with silt, sand, and other fines preventing the water from getting into the collection system below. Keep in mind that this is still a flood zone and any potential flood water would make inundate the area with silt.
Are they being moderate/conservative at the moment, in that Cy Town will require re-engineering the area for flood control? Wondering if this is no more than temporary work? I don't know a thing about such engineering, just asking.
They raised the area several feet already.
A. “McFarland Clinic is expected to break ground on an anticipated 60,000-square foot multi-level medical facility adjacent to the north entrance of Jack Trice Stadium in the summer of 2024.”
Guessing it starts in earnest after the season.
B. It was posted here that there will be an announcement about the rest of CyTown late this month, iirc.
Yeah. I just see a lot of it working in Minneapolis since the City of Minneapolis requires a minimum ratio of permeable to non-permeable for medium to large paved areas. I was painfully aware that it is a lot more expensive to install and to maintain, but I hadn't thought about the flood plain implications. Good insight from you guys.
On the other hand in the last decade or so the ISC lots have had a lot of permeable pavement since much of it was hardly pavement at all anymore.
