Most telling stat of the season....
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I forgot there were coaches on this board that obviously know more then most professional coaches. My apologies.
Easy on the size slugger, I'm only 19. I'm not partially blind. Isn't it my right to post my opinion? Thanks.
I don't have the stats on our lack of free throw attempts, but I know it can't be good. To me that stat outlines our issue, which is lack of dribble penetration.
A little melodramatic, don't you think? Sounds like a cheesey t-shirt slogan. Oh, and I don't think any of us are coaches.
I believe thats partially the reason, but mostly conditioning and athleticism really. IMO. We need to get more athletic to of course get the penetration and also be strong enough to get in the lane and go up strong. And I believe our offense can work if we can get some penetration but also be able to play 40 minute, not a half. If we could have done that this year I think we'd be at least talking about first round NIT.
Getting in the lane is absolutely key. So many good things come from that.
What I consider to be our best team ever (Tinsley, Fizer, and company) lived off Tinsley getting into the lane. Either finishing himself, dishing to Fizer, or kicking out for 3. It was pick-your-poison for opposing defenses.
If Brackins stays and we get a point guard who can penetrate, it will make everyone on the floor look better.
You have a good point thats why i believe thats part of the reason we struggled. DG has shown at moments he can be that guy, but he is still a bit small. If he can bulk up and if Colvin can come in and do some good things I think there are bright things ahead of us. If Buck can become a bit more grounded and control, we could have potential slashers in the paint. But we need to improve our conditioning and athleticism i think is the biggest key for next year. But im no coach like PolyCy.
If it were to be true that alot of our struggles had to do with lack of conditioning, that would be a huge indictment of our coaching staff. I think Greg is alot smarter than that....we had such a slim margin for error, I don't see him taking any chances in allowing us to get beat with something he can actually control. Athleticism is not something he can change midseason, but having the guys in shape to play is....I find this argument very hard to believe.
Please explain how we can fade in the 2nd half at certain points. Sure other teams doubled on CB, but we should have players that can be athletic enough to force the issue, and make things happen, and then CB can get open more. I do believe conditioning is a factor, I can't tell you what happens at practice and niether can probably 99% of all isu fans, but i do believe there should be an adjustment in conditioning, and strength. But again thats my opinion, you can respectfully disgree, i wont be mad. But basketball is over, so its time to start thinking about football more.
I'll admit I didn't watch that much of the team this year. (Unfortunately, living in Minneapolis we're usually stuck watching two powerhouses like Indiana and Northwestern go at it :dull:.)
However, the few games I did watch I felt like DG could get past the initial defender, but wasn't much of a threat after that. Absolutely no threat to finish (although I felt like he could have got to the line way more than he did) and no threat to dish to anyone but Brackins (that, of course, isn't really DG's fault).
I'm no coach, but I've played a lot of basketball and you can acheive a lot of success offensively just by making the defense move. Eventually, something will open. Either an open jump shot, a backdoor cut, big man in good post postition, etc, etc. When I watched our team this year I felt like all the other team had to do was pack it in and try to contain Brackins. We had one legitimate scoring threat on the floor. That's no contest for a D1 team and a D1 coach.
In all honesty, it doesn't take much for that to change. One or two other scoring threats (someone like Gilstrap) can change the whole landscape. Even one other player that opposing teams/coaches have to respect makes an enormous difference. Make them move and force them to make decisions. Good things will happen.
You just said it....we need more athleticism. We all know that, which is the reason behind our inability to attack the basket and put pressure on our opponents. Conditioning is a separate issue....I think our guys were in plenty good shape, but we struggled in the second half due to our opponents making adjustments that we could not counter due to our lack of options. I'm not offended if somebody disagrees with me, but if you are looking towards football...then just do it, and don't post here. For me, I'm interested in discussing what took place in a respectful manner.
The stat that really jumped out at me all season was the number of shots our opponents we're getting per game compared to us. Rebounding and getting into the passing lanes a little more are a couple things I hope Greg addresses in the off season. Looking forward to next season with the incoming players, redshirted players, and our existing team with another year of maturity. Hope they're all in the weight room right now.
Rebounding was definitely an issue....problem being, we chose to not be a good rebounding team by not sending many guys to the offensive boards. Don't get me wrong, I understand guys like Lucca are not going to be effective rebounders...but this category certainly needs some attention. One thing I'm uncertain about is why we don't jam the outlets, which would allow us to send another guy to the offensive boards. I would like to know the strategy there....and why we choose to be so conservative. Sure we don't want to give up fastbreak points, but IMO playing so conservatively really puts us at a disadvantage.
The thing that stood out for me was how we panicked late in close games. Talk about deer in headlights! When CB was doubled, we just didn't have that one player this season that could make plays and will us to win the close ones.
This "most telling stat" indicates to me that we are getting out-coached during halftime.
I love all the reasons people on this site have for this stat...poor conditioning, lack of talent, etc. Clearly, those things may play a role...but again, the head coach is directly responsible for these items...as well as making in game (and half time) adjustments.
I hold GM directly responsible for everything in the program...I will give him credit for things he has done well (like recruit CB) and I will give him blame for those things that he is not doing well (like retaining players...WJ in particular).
I find it comical how some of you are quick to give him credit for recruiting WJ but not a bit of blame for WJ leaving...something good happens and you say it is a sign that GM is a great coach...something bad happens and it is "bad luck" or something else...but never GM's fault.
I love all the reasons people on this site have for this stat...poor conditioning, lack of talent, etc. Clearly, those things may play a role...but again, the head coach is directly responsible for these items...as well as making in game (and half time) adjustments.
I hold GM directly responsible for everything in the program...I will give him credit for things he has done well (like recruit CB) and I will give him blame for those things that he is not doing well (like retaining players...WJ in particular).
I find it comical how some of you are quick to give him credit for recruiting WJ but not a bit of blame for WJ leaving...something good happens and you say it is a sign that GM is a great coach...something bad happens and it is "bad luck" or something else...but never GM's fault.
Here come the GM fanatic wolves to his rescue...I was told by a certain poster on here that we do have the athletes. Funny how opinions change when the coach publicly admits otherwise isn't it! We stunk in all statistical categories, there isn't one overriding stat which proves otherwise. I State is just that a one man team, no disrespect to the hard working walk-ons intended (their mustard just didn't cut it)!
Thats just stupid. I realize that he is the head coach but not everything is his fault. Is it his fault that Mike Taylor acted like a child? Is it his fault that pretty much everyone left after Morgan was fired? I'm guessing you thinks it will be his fault when Barnes committs to Duke.
Yes it will be his fault, dude needs to seal the deal. I'm betting everyone has had a boss that demanded results or else. He needs to get big time guys to be a big time coach, not just mid major luck with big men shooting the 3 ball. I certainly hope he has some sort of strategy to fix this in under 9 years, seriously. Sometimes a coach just isn't suited to a particular time and place, look no further than former K-State coach & current Creighton coach the mid major phenomenon Dana "Mr. Bad Mustache" Altman!
