*** Official #17 IOWA STATE vs Kansas Game(Day) Thread ***

[madguy30]

I wish we had creativity on offense like KU. Matt Campbell would never

Execution and OL is probably the bigger deal.

 

[1SEIACLONE]

21 to UCF

No, the one which should have been a pick 6, but the kid dropped the ball went on the defensive stats. We have allowed a decent QB to throw all day on us, and its not something new, its the flaw in the defense, and teams have seen enough of it over the past couple of years to figure it out.

 

[cyatheart]

Yeah we are just so outmanned in defense at this point. Just nobody left.

 

[alarson]

Alarson, not sure how you can disagree when the last three weeks the defense has given up 35 to UCF, 23 to TT and 45 today to KU.

Disagreeing with saying the offense had a good day. The final score there is misleading.

 

[cymac2408]

If I was a stud defensive lineman (which I’m not), no way would I come to ISU to play in a 3 man front and get double teamed every play. You don’t stand a chance being noticed for the NFL.

 

[AllInForISU]

No, the one which should have been a pick 6, but the kid dropped the ball went on the defensive stats. We have allowed a decent QB to throw all day on us, and its not something new, its the flaw in the defense, and teams have seen enough of it over the past couple of years to figure it out.

I’m aware. Anyone who saw the game and play knows that wasn’t on the defense. You can have some nuance in that situation.

 

[Cyched]

Not saying that at all. I’ll gladly take the heat though if that’s helpful.

More a general frustration with the state of college sports compounded by the lackluster performance tonight.

College fans are being constantly asked to give more and more. And more. And it never seems to be enough.

When you ask people for money over and over again, at some point we have to get something in return.

Can we continue to sell this effectively?

 

[Tpups21]

Have not read most of this thread, so forgive me, but we won two of the three phases of the game today. The special teams played well, the offense put 36 points on the board with only one turnover, a poor decision by Becht, which was a pick six. But scoring 36 points should be enough to win a game. Looking at the teams that won today and are ranked only Ohio State, Colorado and Texas put up more than 36 points. We scored enough to win today.

The defense is a problem, I have said many times the flaw in the system is that it gives a QB all day to sit in the pocket and scan the field till he finds an open receiver. We blitz very little and none of our down lineman are McDonald that can put pressure on the QB and force him to move off his spot. Many times today, the announcers pointed out how much time the KU QB had to scan the field and find a guy. KU had a great game plan to overcome the defense, send the outside guys straight down the field, forcing the deep man to choose one side or the other to cover, and the QB throw to the other side, or we were slow getting over to cut off the pass. They always also running one guy across the middle each play to keep the LBers up to watch and try to stop it. Putting our corners repeatedly in one on one and we got toasted repeatedly.

Time to change up the defense, we put this in over the span of a week or two, put pressure on the Qb by either blitzing early and often or switch it up and go to 4 down lineman. Teams have adjusted to the defense, the coaching staff has to come up with a way to stop that adjustment.

Defense really lacks an elite pass rusher coming off the edge.

 

[cyclonez7]

The offense still bears lots of blame also. They did not get into the endzone again after the early TD drive until late in the 3rd quarter. That's a 35 minute TD drought. We only scored 36 points out of desperation. Sure the defense was bad but let's not pretend the offense was great either.

 

[Stevetasker]

Even when they did blitz today, they were not even close to getting home.

They consistently picked on #19 today. I can think of at least 2 TDs that were directly due to him not making the right play

They brought #3 on a corner blitz & 19 didn’t drop till
it was way too late on the 1st td.

 

[Trice]

I ask again...

So why did the "KU Game" thread get nuked?

 

[AllInForISU]

They brought #3 on a corner blitz & 19 didn’t drop till
it was way too late on the 1st td.

on another one he followed the wrong crosser which led to 2 guys guarding one and 0 guarding the other

 

[AllInForISU]

If I was a stud defensive lineman (which I’m not), no way would I come to ISU to play in a 3 man front and get double teamed every play. You don’t stand a chance being noticed for the NFL.

Didn’t Will McDonald get drafted in the first round after playing in a 3 man front?

 

[isufbcurt]

If I was a stud defensive lineman (which I’m not), no way would I come to ISU to play in a 3 man front and get double teamed every play. You don’t stand a chance being noticed for the NFL.

When would a stud DL come to ISU anyway? They all go to UGA, Bama and LSU.

 

[brentblum]

More a general frustration with the state of college sports compounded by the lackluster performance tonight.

College fans are being constantly asked to give more and more. And more. And it never seems to be enough.

When you ask people for money over and over again, at some point we have to get something in return.

Can we continue to sell this effectively?

It is a personal decision if you’re getting the return you’re looking for. I’ll keep grinding and doing whatever I can to keep Iowa State competitive and if that means over-asking, that’s part of the deal I guess.

 

[AllInForISU]

When would a stud DL come to ISU anyway? They all go to UGA, Bama and LSU.

Exactly. Probably have to hit on a freak athlete like McDonald.

Also Jaquan Bailey stuck around too. He was pretty good and pretty highly rated IIRC, yes I am aware that was a different situation.

 

[demoncore1031]

Why did Ta'Shawn James get so much playing time at safety today? He was awful. Wasn't there a better option than him?

 

[Iluvteak]

We had Purdy (with weapons) and couldn’t even win the Conference.

Yep. Bad oline. Guess who played oline. CMC. Ironic and sad isn’t it !

 

[cymac2408]

Didn’t Will McDonald get drafted in the first round after playing in a 3 man front?

Yes but that dude was a freak on the outside and not on the interior line. The opposing tackles were sometimes left on an island with him. Offenses did do a lot of chipping with a running back or a tight end. He got most of his sacks when he was one on one.

 

[demoncore1031]

Exactly. Probably have to hit on a freak athlete like McDonald.

Also Jaquan Bailey stuck around too. He was pretty good and pretty highly rated IIRC, yes I am aware that was a different situation.

We seem to be recruiting bigger ends now, as opposed to speed guys. Hopefully Trey Verdon will be a good one.