Playoffs

[BCoffClone125]

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IN: MWC winner
Both SEC teams (Georgia and Texas)
Both B1G teams (Oregon and Penn State)
ACC winner
Big XII winner
Ohio State
Tennessee
Notre Dame

Who will be the other two? Almost certainly Indiana. Miami has to fall a long way from 6 to be out. Alabama is still lurking around after beating Auburn. Heck, South Carolina is getting into the conversation. If Clemson wins the ACC you’ve got SMU sitting there, too, maybe at 8 after Miami lost. I can’t see the Big XII CCG loser (or Colorado) overcoming the SEC/ACC bias (or, frankly, just having three losses … only Alabama gets the benefit of the doubt with three losses, it’s in the CFP bylaws) to get above all four of Miami/SMU/Bama/SCar.

Indiana is in for sure. After that, I'm trying to figure out rooting interests for ISU.

1) Boise needs to lose to UNLV on Friday
2) Tulane beating Army may also be good but probably won't matter
3) I think we want to root for Clemson? If they win, would they really seed them higher than ISU? On the flipside, if Boise loses we may want SMU to win to get another ACC team out of the playoff picture

Have a hard time seeing a path for two Big 12 teams but maybe if the right dominos fall it's possible. A 1st round bye would be HUGE. I really don't want to have to play a home game against Ohio State, Notre Dame, Georgia, etc.

 

[KidSilverhair]

Disagree. I want a bye if we win. Need Clemson to win for that to happen.

Just realized that … go UNLV, then

 

[BCClone]

They had Tulane ahead of ISU, KSU and BYU even though Tulane's resume, SOR, and SOS is ******* compared to those teams and almost no computer ranking has Tulane ahead of any of them. It's not like Tulane was undefeated or even one loss, they had the same record as ISU and BYU.

But they had ASU infront of them.

 

[HFCS]

I actually don't remember or see that. That's ridiculous. Conference championship have always gotten big bumps in past but perhaps I'm wrong

I think the winner if ISU/ASU will get a bump...but they're already down at 15/16 in the final ranking before the CCGs. They'll need huge bumps to be seeded higher than 12 if they can't take that 4 seed from Boise or Clemson.

 

[HFCS]

But they had ASU infront of them.

What rational non-crazy reason was there to have BYU and ISU behind Tulane? Absolutely none.

What about KSU with a head to head win over Tulane and KSU was top 20 in almost all computer metrics? Again, none.

 

[ISU_Guy]

I think to simplify all of this because my head hurts

We need isu to win and Boise to lose.
That would give isu the 4 seed.

 

[BCClone]

What rational non-crazy reason was there to have BYU and ISU behind Tulane? Absolutely none.

What about KSU with a head to head win over Tulane and KSU was top 20 in almost all computer metrics? Again, none.

Its the stuff they have always done. They needed to have them high just incase the B12 slipped up and all four of us lost, then they had them sitting their to bump the B12 out and not have to explain why they put the 25th ranked team into the playoffs.

 

[Yaz]

SIAP, but I thought it was interesting during the game lastnight when Yorkmark was interviewed and he was basically speaking to the playoff committee and asking them to look at the SOS when selecting teams. I think that speaks volumes to what we all know is wrong with the system. It's rigged.

 

[KidSilverhair]

Completely off the top of my head:

Assuming CCG wins by Oregon, Texas, SMU, Boise State, and Iowa State, the byes would be going to the first four.

Iowa State likely gets the 12 seed and plays at Notre Dame.
The 11-6 game could be Bama at Penn State.
The 10-7 game looks like Indiana at Georgia.
The 9-8 game is Tennessee at Ohio State.

Again, just a guess by looking at last week’s CFP rankings and this week‘s results … but I am not a gambler, and if I were, I’d lose a lot more than I’d win, so don’t think I’m actually going to be right with trying to outguess the committee, lol.

 

[cyphoon]

We should be in. Big 12 will get multiple schools.

If the Big 12 gets multiple schools in, it will be the conf champ + Colorado and Deion due to name brand bias.

H

 

[RagingCloner]

Indiana is in for sure. After that, I'm trying to figure out rooting interests for ISU.

1) Boise needs to lose to UNLV on Friday
2) Tulane beating Army may also be good but probably won't matter
3) I think we want to root for Clemson? If they win, would they really seed them higher than ISU? On the flipside, if Boise loses we may want SMU to win to get another ACC team out of the playoff picture

Have a hard time seeing a path for two Big 12 teams but maybe if the right dominos fall it's possible. A 1st round bye would be HUGE. I really don't want to have to play a home game against Ohio State, Notre Dame, Georgia, etc.

Give me OSU or ND. bring them on. Will Howard’s never beaten ISU and Jon Heacock. Also, this ISU team is miles better than the NIU team that beat ND at home already this year

 

[DurangoCy]

I think SMU is in regardless. The committee has already stated that making the conference championship game shouldn’t be a punishment. So I doubt they drop out with a loss.

Oregon
Penn State
Indiana
Ohio State
Texas
Georgia
Tennessee
Notre Dame
ISU or ASU
SMU
Boise
Clemson or Alabama

IMO, there’s certainly important games for seeding, but the field is set outside of the two spots. I think Bama jumps Miami, but I’m not 100%

Boise or UNLV - that game is not a foregone conclusion.

 

[BCClone]

The Tech game was the killer, we had that one and let it go.

 

[HFCS]

I think to simplify all of this because my head hurts

We need isu to win and Boise to lose.
That would give isu the 4 seed.

ISU win
Boise loss
Clemson win

That's your CCG viewing guide because I really don't see the Big Ten or SEC CCG affecting the Big 12 winner. Clemson winning isn't some lock Big 12 gets the 4 seed but it'd at least be possible, rationally the Big 12 champ would be higher but they could still screw Big 12. SMU is a lock for 3 seed if they win even if Boise wins by 30.

 

[Die4Cy]

Completely off the top of my head:

Assuming CCG wins by Oregon, Texas, SMU, Boise State, and Iowa State, the byes would be going to the first four.

Iowa State likely gets the 12 seed and plays at Notre Dame.
The 11-6 game could be Bama at Penn State.
The 10-7 game looks like Indiana at Georgia.
The 9-8 game is Tennessee at Ohio State.

Again, just a guess by looking at last week’s CFP rankings and this week‘s results … but I am not a gambler, and if I were, I’d lose a lot more than I’d win, so don’t think I’m actually going to be right with trying to outguess the committee, lol.

Texas is going to lose their CCG and ISU will get to play in Austin the week after Dallas. Book it.

 

[chuckd4735]

Texas is going to lose their CCG and ISU will get to play in Austin the week after Dallas. Book it.

There are two weeks between CCGs and playoffs

 

[HFCS]

Boise or UNLV - that game is not a foregone conclusion.

I don't know how they determine the site but I just saw the MWC CCG is in Boise, last year it was in Vegas.

On paper UNLV is certainly playing just as well, that's a big edge though.

 

[ISU_Guy]

ISU win
Boise loss
Clemson win

That's your CCG viewing guide because I really don't see the Big Ten or SEC CCG affecting the Big 12 winner. Clemson winning isn't some lock Big 12 gets the 4 seed but it'd at least be possible, rationally the Big 12 champ would be higher but they could still screw Big 12. SMU is a lock for 3 seed if they win even if Boise wins by 30.

Good take. Clemson win, Boise loss and isu win could get isu to the 3 line.

 

[BCClone]

I don't know how they determine the site but I just saw the MWC CCG is in Boise, last year it was in Vegas.

On paper UNLV is certainly playing just as well, that's a big edge though.

Top seed gets the gam.e

 

[HFCS]

Good take. Clemson win, Boise loss and isu win could get isu to the 3 line.

SMU actually has the most pressure packed CCG.

#3 seed lock if they win, super bubble team if they lose.

ISU and ASU could be playing for 12 seed vs just obviously out. High stakes but not such a wild swing as SMU could have.