***OFFICIAL CFP Rankings Show Watch Thread***

[Mr Janny]

I think it could be illegal, but it'd be hard to prove without smoking gun evidence worse than their rankings just consistently undervaluing the Big 12 vs other rankings.

Like if there was a recording of committee members talking about how they need to keep certain teams or conferences out because the Big Ten and SEC are the only future of the sport, that'd be great evidence.

Sure, I suppose if they're stupid enough to be blatant about it and actually articulate their intent to leave conferences out, then someone might try to sue, but there's zero need to ever put it into words or document their bias in a way that could get them in trouble. So long as they can make even a semi reasonable argument for their rankings, they're pretty well insulated.

 

[xboxfever]

Is this real?

I don’t know if it is or not, but that bracket makes it Big Ten on one side and SEC on the other. Just what ESPN wants.

 

[danvillecyclone]

I gotta believe a win on Saturday puts isu in cfp. Anything else seems inappropriate.

Yes. A win and we are in.

Im talking winning convincingly to secure a bye. As far as a long-shot it may be. It can only help for that purpose.

Same goes for ASU.

 

[Dgilbertson]

Nothing we can do boys

Cheer for UNLV on Friday

Cheer for clones on Saturday.

Those 2 things happen, we’ll get a bye.

If we win and Boise wins, we’re probably headed to South Bend/Athens/Happy Valley

If NIU, GaTch, and USC can beat/nearly beat those teams I’m not intimidated. Go and do it. Take the respect out of their cold, dead chest cavity.

 

[ISU_Guy]

If NIU, GaTch, and USC can beat/nearly beat those teams I’m not intimidated. Go and do it. Take the respect out of their cold, dead chest cavity.

I would argue that these teams were all drunk during these games

 

[Cyched]

Not sure I love the route Pollard went with tweet even if correct.

**** it. Playing nice is how we got here

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

ESPN currently has Arizona State as the place holder for their bracket watch graphic. They have drawn their allegiance.

 

[StPaulCyclone]

I hate that the SEC is essentially getting rewarded for playing one less conference game. And there never seems to be enough discussion around that.

It should go a ways to offsetting their complaints that their conference slate is tougher, up it won’t. Narrative has to narrate…

 

[Dgilbertson]

I would argue that these teams were all drunk during these games

Spike their room service like Ohio did to us

 

[AlaCyclone]

**** it. Playing nice is how we got here

Jamie being Jamie again. What he should do is pick up the phone and call the A.D.s @ S.M.U., @ Boise State and @ Indiana and propose a home and home football series and a home and home Basketball series with all three schools instead of whining on twitter. Those 3 schools only have one loss, and in the case of S.M.U (B.Y.U.) and Boise State (@ Oregon), the OOC team they played was better than I.S.U.'s toughest OOC game @ Iowa.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

It will support the CFP Committee’s narrative if the Big 12 winner plays at #5 and gets blasted.

They would NEVER give Iowa State or Az St that advantage! Especially a game in Ames, IA.

That’s the crazy thing. It’s either a Bye or #12 and very very very likely #12.

That’s part of the insanity.

Can you imagine The Jack hosting the first year's playoff home game?

 

[KidSilverhair]

These dipwads on the Sirius/XM college sports channel are infuriatingly stupid. They’re taking Warde Manuel’s answer to Rece Davis - that teams not in CCGs, like Alabama/Miami/South Carolina/Ole Miss aren’t going to move next week relative to each other - and misunderstanding it to infer “He said Alabama won’t move from 11, they must be in the playoff for sure!”

Manuel didn’t say that. He was trying to answer Davis’ (kinda dumb) question about whether Miami or South Carolina might somehow jump Alabama next week without playing, and his somewhat confusing answer about rankings being “locked in” confused the jamokes on XM.

If Clemson beats SMU, there’s a chance (slight as it may be) that SMU still ends up ranked above Alabama, and therefore both Clemson and SMU are in and Alabama is out. Bama isn’t “locked in” at 11 - they could move down. Nothing Manuel said contradicted that. What he did say is that the committee isn’t going to move teams not playing this week relative to other teams that aren’t playing this week, so an idle Miami or South Carolina isn’t jumping an idle Alabama.

Basically it makes it clear what I said Sunday: eleven of the playoff spots are set (well, I mean, depending on who wins the MWC/Big XII/ACC games). The only question is if Clemson wins, does SMU stay above Alabama. My guess is probably not, but it’s at least possible.

 

[HFCS]

Jamie beign Jamie again. What he should do is pick up the phone and call the A.D.s @ S.M.U., @ Boise State and @ Indiana and propose a home and home football series and a home and home Basketball series with all three schools instead of whining on twitter. Those 3 schools only have one loss, and in the case of S.M.U (B.Y.U.) and Boise State (@ Oregon), the OOC team they played was better than I.S.U.'s toughest OOC game @ Iowa.

Why? the committee punishes good schedules.

He has a point you are missing.

 

[agrabes]

I'm with you all that the B12 is getting the shaft here (especially ASU dropping after a win), that said the sky is also not falling nearly as much as some of you are saying. The problem we had is exactly what CW said in his Sunday podcast - no one emerged as a clear top dog in the B12 and the teams that tied for 1st were not the ones ranked high to begin the year so we got penalized. IMO - it's best if the B12 develops a new pecking order where 2-3 teams tend to dominate. If they win Playoff or high level non-playoff matchups with P4 teams, those teams will start to get respect over time similar to Clemson who was not a football power 15 years ago.

The key matchups we have to watch are 10 BSU vs 20 UNLV and 8 SMU vs 17 Clemson. ASU is 15 and ISU is 16. If 17 Clemson beats 8 SMU, they almost certainly jump the B12 winner both in terms of plain logic (beating the #8 team should move you up more than beating the #15/16 team) and in terms of committee scheming for TV dollars. However, if UNLV beats Boise, the B12 winner will likely jump them for the 4th first round bye. UNLV might go up to being ranked say 14 or 15, but the B12 winner is starting higher and should move above UNLV. Plus, the B12 winner will have higher media value than UNLV.

But let's say no upsets happen - we're probably on the outside looking in for the bye. So who else are we looking at here that's in the 8-12 seeding range? All those teams are likely locked in since none play this week. But in ESPN's bracket they have us facing Penn State #5 and then Boise. I would not at all be scared of that matchup. Penn State is a paper tiger - they've made hay against bad teams in the B1G, had a close loss to OSU who also appears overrated based on their loss to Michigan. I think there's a good chance they get blown out in the B1G title game. Playing PSU at home will be tough, but I think we can win. It's not much harder to win there than at Kinnick Stadium. And if they get blown out by Oregon, they might drop to the 6 line which means we likely get Notre Dame, which I feel even better about. If we win that, we get Boise at a neutral site which also does not scare me. After that you're up against Oregon which is tough. But seriously, even if the B12 winner gets the 12th seed it's not a terrible path. The committee may be setting us up to get 2 "upset" wins.

 

[CloneDontCare]

The system is even more flawed for the Big 12 than anticipated when a Mountain West team is what marks the difference between the Big 12 team getting a bye and the Big 12 getting the 12 seed with a road game–and said Mountain West team isn't even undefeated. To let Boise State sway our fate so strongly is a vote of zero confidence in this format.

It's always going to be an unfair system, but the RIGHT type of unfair would have the Big 12 champion always winning out for a bye. Why? Because you won THE BIG 12 and not the Mountain West. When this format was announced, who the hell ever dreamt it could result in the Big 12 as a one-bid league with our team on the 12 line?

It's a joke what the SEC/B1G has forced upon us, to the point I'd rather go do our own thing. Let the two big boys go do their own playoff, and let's do one with the ACC along with the top of the G5 rounding out the lowest bids. I'd just rather stop pretending.

 

[TABack]

**** it. Playing nice is how we got here

KSU coach was right, go to 8 game conference schedule.

 

[BigJCy]

Now Jamie is arguing over X with the SMU AD. Quite frankly I just wish he'd be quiet.

 

[AlaCyclone]

Why? the committee punishes good schedules.

He has a point you are missing.

Iowa State's two losses were not due to the schedule being too tough. If they only lost one of the games, they would be ranked ahead of Boise for sure and in the same neighborhood as S.M.U. and Indiana (who has at least pummelled teams).

Point is that Jamie likes to whine on twitter, when he could choose a different method. If S.M.U., Indiana and Boise have it so easy, give 'em a call and ask them to come out and play! Win-Win for us all.

 

[Cyched]

KSU coach was right, go to 8 game conference schedule.

Unfortunately we’re held to a different standard than the SEC and can’t do that without losing money. Step up the PR pressure to get the SEC to join the rest of CFB.

 

[Cyched]

Now Jamie is arguing over X with the SMU AD. Quite frankly I just wish he'd be quiet.

The networks want CFB to be a strictly entertainment product. Give them some entertainment