Jerome Tang not getting good ROI for Hawkins

[Kinch]

Drake wins in OT.

 

[nfrine]

Drake wins in OT.

Good night!

 

[CloneLawman]

I've heard rumor that Drake fans somehow surveilled Tang in the huddle.

 

[WISCY1895]

 

[t-noah]

Yay Drake! 11-0!

It's Tough Time for Tang. Too bad for Tang. Terrible for Tang. Terrible Tang. That was kinda fun.

I'll stop now though. I'd wanted Tang to implode slowly. This is too fast.

 

[Drew0311]

Drake is the second best team in Iowa.

 

[twincyties]

Hawkins can eat an entire bag of dicks

 

[Cyched]

Hawkins can eat an entire bag of dicks

Well this seems pretty harsh, at least let Jerome split it with him

 

[Cyforce]

Drake is the second best team in Iowa.

Solid example of don’t worry about where a guy came from. Three or four starters were playing in Maryville last year.

 

[NWICY]

COVID hitting when it did creates an interesting hypothetical for ISU basketball.

No COVID would have meant...

ISU plays a normal schedule and therefore wins far more than two non-con games. The out of conference slate the previous season was...

Cupcakes = MVSU, Northern Illinois, Southern Miss, UMKC, Purdue Fort Wayne, Florida A&M

P6 = Oregon St., Michigan, Alabama, Seton Hall (2x), Iowa

So, Prohm ends the non-con the next season with 6-7 wins against the cupcakes.

As you said, a home crowd at Hilton is enough to push them over the edge on a few Big 12 games.

The team has a traditional offseason to try and bond and gel into a cohesive unit (something is desperately needed with so many new faces and with Haliburton's departure). That team was never going to compete for championships, but it had some talent to threaten Big 12 teams...

Rasir Bolton = could be very good and a good piece for Gonzaga
Jalen Coleman-Lands = good kid and elite shooter/scorer
George Conditt = emerging big man who ended up making the D-League
Tyler Harris = tiny but quick and would occasionally not miss a three for a whole half
Javan Johnson = averaged 14.2 PPG on 41.2% shooting from three as a senior
Solomon Young = physically a shell of himself but at least an experienced big man

Plus guys like Tre Jackson (a good kid and good depth guard there) and Darlington Dubar (ended up a big-time scorer for Hofstra and now a bench guy for #1 Tennessee) and you've got a team that isn't stopping much of anybody but can score enough it might snap at you if you're not careful.

If that team wins 12-13 games, does Pollard give Prohm another chance?

We all know Pollard holds on to the bitter end before firing a coach. He ran Morgan and McCarney out but, once he had "his guys," he's only ever fired Rhoads and Prohm for catastrophic failure.

Rhoads was probably going to be back before that K-State debacle in 2015.

Things had to be *bad* for Pollard to fire Prohm after the financial hit from COVID, too, though maybe no COVID and more money means Pollard is more willing to make such a change.

What happens with TJ? Do we ever end up with him? Is he a UNLV lifer? Or does another P6/P5 program scoop him up at some point (e.g., Wisconsin) and we end up ruing the day?

Obviously a lot of moving pieces and while COVID was one of the worst tragedies in modern history, from the narrow perspective of ISU basketball, it is a big reason we are where we are now.

I do not like this scenario, Sam I am, I do not like this with green eggs and ham.
2 and 22 sucked but that pain was worth TJ IMO.

 

[rosshm16]

I'm so happy they lost.

 

[mj4cy]

Dogs > Cats

 

[Cyclonepride]

Win or lose, I'd miss him most because he's an amazing character. His antics and the way opposing fans respond reminds me of the old Big 8 days when I was in school in the early 90s. Every coach seemed to have a quirk all of Hilton would make fun of during the games." Sit Down Billy" was an all time favorite chant of mine.

There are the amazing characters, and then there are idiots who are so bent out of shape at a loss that they are willing to assassinate the character of an opposing coach and staff to excuse it. **** that guy

 

[ESciGuy]

My final summation of Prohm...

Nice guy. Good man. No problems there.

Not the most suave but had a goofy middle-aged dad charm about him.

Bizarrely inconsistent talent evaluator. Some massive hits. Lots of absolute bombs.

Put together some good offenses but had zero idea how to teach team defense.

Not a great eye for assistants -- gee many should have hired Kyle Green as a defensive coordinator (maybe the best move TJ has made so far) and gotten AJ Green as a bonus.

Could not handle the egos in the locker room. Worked fine when he still had the Hoiberg guys around who knew how to police themselves, but it fell apart once those guys left the program.

Seems like a guy who should be a good career mid-major coach but probably not a P5 guy.

Phil Dunphy...

 

[Sigmapolis]

Phil Dunphy

Not bad casting.

 

[JP4CY]

Phil Dunphy...

 

[Drew0311]

Win or lose, I'd miss him most because he's an amazing character. His antics and the way opposing fans respond reminds me of the old Big 8 days when I was in school in the early 90s. Every coach seemed to have a quirk all of Hilton would make fun of during the games." Sit Down Billy" was an all time favorite chant of mine.

It was pretty crazy how every coach was a huge character back then. Billy Tubbs, Sit down Norm, Danny Nee, Johnny, Eddie Sutton. Just every coach had something that made us hate them or just love to push their buttons on the sidelines. Billy Tubbs was the ultimate "Does stuff to get on the fans nerves" type guy. He played into it the best.

 

[Pope]

Tang said in post game presser that his guys are feeling too much pressure because they're getting paid, and fans who are adding to that pressure aren't real fans.

He said he was proud of his players effort tonight and put the blame on himself and his staff for not giving the players a better chance to win.

 

[sclotz]

Tang said in post game presser that his guys are feeling too much pressure because they're getting paid, and fans who are adding to that pressure aren't real fans.

He said he was proud of his players effort tonight and put the blame on himself and his staff for not giving the players a better chance to win.

I can’t find his presser on YouTube. Where did you find it? Thanks

 

[JP4CY]

Tang said in post game presser that his guys are feeling too much pressure because they're getting paid, and fans who are adding to that pressure aren't real fans.

He said he was proud of his players effort tonight and put the blame on himself and his staff for not giving the players a better chance to win.

If Drake had a better offensive flow, KState gets absolutely run last night.

Bruce Weber had his faults but his teams weren't this soft.