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I sat at Christmas with a person that is an avid sports fan that has no allegiances. They don't understand how I got so riled up about the ISU / Miami game. He just likes to watch exciting sport of all sorts and doesn't get all riled up.

I explained to him that makes him a sports observer, not a fan. He does not understand my point of view at all.

He is one of the people that would continue to watch the super league. He wouldn't like it, but he would continue to watch it. I told him I would NEVER watch anything in that league becuase it has nothing to do with any team that I cheer for and he found that odd.

There are different people out there. I'd just like to know the actual marketing research that has been done on the casual fan and the one that is attached to all the other NCAA schools BECAUSE of the school they choose to root for. I honestly don't know what those percentages would be, but I would like to know.

It's wild those kinds of people outnumber real fans. In my life I know maybe one of them for every ten avid fans of a team or teams.

I'll only tune in to see a blue blood team if they have some generational talent or some underdog is beating them...and it's just as often those talents aren't on the blue blood teams.

I cannot imagine thinking "oh the Alabama football brand makes me feel good, I want to watch that brand vs another brand Ohio State that makes me feel good, I'd never want to see Arizona State win anything". But I guess that's a majority of sports viewers.
 

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If you can headhunt as long as it's a tipped ball then I guess I don't understand the point of the rule.

I don't see anything in the rule book that says all targeting rules are abolished in the case of a tipped ball, but I didn't search thoroughly.
 

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It's wild those kinds of people outnumber real fans. In my life I know maybe one of them for every ten avid fans of a team or teams.

I'll only tune in to see a blue blood team if they have some generational talent or some underdog is beating them...and it's just as often those talents aren't on the blue blood teams.

I cannot imagine thinking "oh the Alabama football brand makes me feel good, I want to watch that brand vs another brand Ohio State that makes me feel good, I'd never want to see Arizona State win anything". But I guess that's a majority of sports viewers.
“real fans” are often fans of college football the same way “real” nfl fans still watch playoff games and the superbowl when their team isn’t in it.
 
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The same call was erased in ISU games. The crown is head down, this wasn’t the top of the head. It was the forehead just above the facemask. So crown would not be the call.

To me from one view it definitely looks like he lowers the crown at the last minute and I'd call it top of the helmet.

From the first/live view I thought it was pretty straight up.

The replay officials clearly are not up to the task of calling this consistently, it's time to end the experiment or at least reduce the penalty. Another thing they could do is "if it's close, it's targeting".
 

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It's wild those kinds of people outnumber real fans. In my life I know maybe one of them for every ten avid fans of a team or teams.

I'll only tune in to see a blue blood team if they have some generational talent or some underdog is beating them...and it's just as often those talents aren't on the blue blood teams.

I cannot imagine thinking "oh the Alabama football brand makes me feel good, I want to watch that brand vs another brand Ohio State that makes me feel good, I'd never want to see Arizona State win anything". But I guess that's a majority of sports viewers.
So if I am an Iowa State alum, watch every game, donate but also would watch an Alabama/Tennessee game or the Rose Bowl I’m not a “real” fan?

Get a grip
 

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That targeting call was some ********. If they didn’t go into overtime and blow that 4th down I would 100% be screaming ******** and it still was. But don’t lose the best player Texas has behind an all out blitz and you still win that game
 

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Not exactly sure.
Pass interference, yes. Defenseless reciever, no. The reason for the rule is to prevent concussions and worse.
You can’t target but if the ball is in the air, you are taught to hit the receiver so he can’t catch it if you don’t think you have a shot at it. Once it’s tipped they are no longer a receiver.

The easiest example is, can a QB throw a forward pass to themselves with no one touching it? No. Has to touch someone else.
 

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Because it’s football? Because me not watching a game won’t impact what is happening?

JFC
It doesn't have an impact on today's games, no. It does add to the viewership numbers of conferences that are trying to snuff us out. I'll follow the scores, but I'm absolutely done contributing to the machine this year.
 

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Two things, not the crown, it was the forehead.

Second, I don’t know if the defenseless receiver was erased because the ball looked to be tipped. I could be wrong with that though.
On the second point - it was a tipped ball. Umpire signaled it immediately. This would erase any PI calls, but not targeting. The receiver is still considered to be defenseless while trying to make a play on the ball.