Williams & Blum Pod: ISU raises prices, bowl win, foul play in the CFP?

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So why not announce that yesterday?
Maybe because the House vs. NCAA settlement hasn't been officially approved yet. As I understand it, it has preliminary approval, but not final approval. They may not want to announce anything until it's official.
 
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Because House has not yet been officially approved.
Also, I think there are some that are still considering challenging the settlement on the grounds that it violates their existing state laws. Not sure how far they're willing to push it, but it's possible that the settlement is delayed for a bit
 

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Sukup club generates a lot of revenue on ticket sales that would certainly go down if we sold to the general public. They’ve done a lot of research on this subject.
How does that math change if you are selling Ames lager and getting revenue from that as well?
 

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Not exactly sure.
Also, I think there are some that are still considering challenging the settlement on the grounds that it violates their existing state laws. Not sure how far they're willing to push it, but it's possible that the settlement is delayed for a bit
Throw in that if it counts,, some will just consider what they give to NIL an offset to the CC increase and you don’t gain the 20%.
 

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Regarding alcohol: People at ISU tell me it would likely bring in less than a million after insurance, all that crap that's over my head. So feel free to form whatever opinion you have on that.

My take on the opt-outs, etc. It's a systematic thing. Not a specific critique of ISU. The leaders of college athletics are making this professional sports, not me. If they want to keep going this way, then have participation reports like the NFL does. Transparency is a good thing.. This will be mandatory across the board in the next two years. Gambling is a part of the equation, but not the entire thing. I think fans (who are paying the bill) deserve the right to know what's going on - especially once these guys are officially getting paid.

Full disclosure: I don't know how they are going to do it all with HIPPA laws and what not. Smarter people than me will figure it out.

So you want to make college football more attractive to gambling? It's bad enough the Big 10/SEC/Network greed is ruining college football, now we want want to find ways to assist the gambling? No thanks.
 
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That’s above my pay grade haha but I assume it wouldn’t move the needle that much.
Just curious if you kept Sukup with all alcohol options and sold Ames lager everywhere else in the stadium if that would work. Just well cans. Don't need to invest in the infrastructure for draft beer everywhere. Just a bunch of beer carts
 

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So you want to make college football more attractive to gambling? It's bad enough the Big 10/SEC/Network greed is ruining college football, now we want want to find ways to assist the gambling? No thanks.
That horse jumped the fence long ago, my friend. Gambling is already absolutely entwined into college sports. That dam done broke years ago.
 
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When it comes to alcohol sales, people need to realize if you are going to argue for it you need to do it for the fan experience and not generating revenue. The idea Pollard is not taking advantage of some big money maker is silly.

We're all focused on the revenue side of this given yesterday's news dump, but plenty of people have made that very argument.
 

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We're all focused on the revenue side of this given yesterday's news dump, but plenty of people have made that very argument.
I understand being focused on revenue but then why keep hammering away at a topic that 1) we don’t know will even generate positive revenue compared to our current situation and 2) if it does generate revenue, how much are we looking at?
 

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So you want to make college football more attractive to gambling? It's bad enough the Big 10/SEC/Network greed is ruining college football, now we want want to find ways to assist the gambling? No thanks.

The gambling genie isn't going back in the bottle, and it isn't ISU athletics' job to take a moral stand against something that is perfectly legal. I'd advise taking your beef with gambling up with the government.
 

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That horse jumped the fence long ago, my friend. Gambling is already absolutely entwined into college sports. That dam done broke years ago.
Realistically, which school will open a sports book in their stadium first? I mean why not us? Get in bed with them because it’s not going away. (I’m only half kidding about opening one).

Struck me most when the Reds have a sports book with the whole Pete Rose thing(I know, slightly different circumstances).

It’s too big and too much $$$ and now they are literally in pro stadiums throughout the country. It all trickles down to
 

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I don't think there is any question that they will if/when WWC funds are transitioned to the AD effective July 1st.

I was shocked by Blum's disclosure that there are more WWC contributors than NCC contributors.
Should have clarified- it should have counted the whole time, and should retroactively account for something. This is what I get for trying to type and run an auger at the same time
 

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I understand being focused on revenue but then why keep hammering away at a topic that 1) we don’t know will even generate positive revenue compared to our current situation and 2) if it does generate revenue, how much are we looking at?

Huh? You said people need to argue for alcohol on the basis of the fan experience, not the revenue. I said people have done that, it's just that the revenue argument is getting all the attention now in light of Pollard's email.