**** WBB: Gamethread: Iowa State hosts Utah 5:30 pm ESPN2 ****

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I think Audi is athletic enough to be better on defense. She has really good feet and that is what she needs on defense. Tonight she had zero fouls. It appears to me that the staff is not concerned about her defense or they would expect more effort on that end. Bill loves to run everything through one star, but when she is a low post it really looks like middle school basketball. It sure looks to me like no one else is comfortable in our current offense. I don’t know how to improve it now, but man it is a struggle.
 
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I feel that the quickest person on the team is KJ but for some reason she is not on the court.
Not on defense is she quick. She routinely gets beaten on drives, her breakdown on a defender is awful. I do think she might be someone to give a chance right now.
 
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A shame for one not sure the other one is ready for Big 12 play.
I think Wilson has played well when given the opportunity. At times I think the offense flows better with her at the point due to less dribbling. She is no where near the PG Emily is, but she is not bad for a change of pace. I also think she brings energy and competitiveness when she is on the court.
 

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Such a disappointing season. The effort is there.

This has to be Bill’s last season right?

I wouldn't count on that. Unless things go really sour I don't see Bill stepping aside and risking a possible mass exodus of the roster as a result. He's too proud to watch this program take a big step back because of him leaving after an underperforming year. There is still time to turn things around this season but it's definitely not a top 10 team we thought it would be coming in.

I would hate to see worse case scenario play out where this team fails to make the tournament, Bill retires, and Audi and Addy leave as a result. Ideally I would love to see Bill retire after a good season with the program still having a good foundation off players that want to be here. Two names that HAS to be on the list that you at least make a call to are Brenda Freese and Jennie Baranczyk. I've said for a long time you have to least least see if Brenda has any desire to come back to ISU and she has Maryland back on track again this year ranked 8 and currently undefeated. With Iowa hiring Jansen that opens a window for us to possibly make a run at Baranczyk before Iowa has another opening as I always thought Jennie would ultimately wind up coaching at Iowa some day. Even if we can't get either of those 2 ISU is too good of a job to just turn over to Billy, Jodi, or someone without head coaching experience or nothing higher than mid-major experience.
 
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When Em is not on the floor, there appears to be no leadership on the floor. Can't really fall to Audi...she is already the centerpiece of the offense...hard to direct play to yourself. Brown does not seem vocal enough, Jackson may lack confidence. Most of the rest are fresh. With Em limited to 24 minutes per game...that is a huge problem no one seems to know how to address. Somebody, just a couple, need to step up, imho.
 
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I think Wilson has played well when given the opportunity. At times I think the offense flows better with her at the point due to less dribbling. She is no where near the PG Emily is, but she is not bad for a change of pace. I also think she brings energy and competitiveness when she is on the court.
JMO. I hope I’m wrong but I see her in a year or 2 transferring down.
 

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Don’t kill me, just a question. How many years does Bill have left?

Right now he's signed through 2027 but they have also floated the term "lifetime contract" around with some of those extension announcements which is basically ISU having faith that Bill will coach as long as he wants to while keeping ISU competitive. He's been here since 1995 which is probably longer than just about anyone employed by the Athletics Department. He turns 68 in May so if I had to guess he won't have his contract extended past the 2027 it currently is at. That at least gets him through Audi's senior year, maybe he announces before that season he plans to retire and that allows ISU enough notice to start putting out feelers through the back channels


I wonder whose retirement will come first, Bill's or Pollard's or maybe they both retire at the same time. I don't see Jamie ever being in a position where he would fire or push Bill out, I think he just has too much respect for what Bill has done here and I think any of us that were alive that remembers how bad ISU WBB was before Bill took the job has the same feeling. You don't fire or push out a guy that took a doormat program that was lucky to get 100 people to attend a game into a nationally respected program and one of the best attendance in the country. We had over 10,000 in Hilton on New Year's day. Last year we ranked 6th in the country for attendance. That's because of what Bill has built at ISU and I don't think Bill will leave on a bad note and risk ISU having to dig out of a big hole as a result.
 

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Not on defense is she quick. She routinely gets beaten on drives, her breakdown on a defender is awful. I do think she might be someone to give a chance right now.


If they would get her the ball when she is wide open, which seems to be a lot when in the game, she probably makea more 3s than anyone else seems to be able to.
 

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I think Wilson has played well when given the opportunity. At times I think the offense flows better with her at the point due to less dribbling. She is no where near the PG Emily is, but she is not bad for a change of pace. I also think she brings energy and competitiveness when she is on the court.
I noticed against KU she is much quicker with the entry pass to the post than Ryan is at times. She doesn't dribble around once she finds someone she is quick to hit them with a pass or swing the ball to the other side of the court. There just seems to be a little more "bounce" to her step that Ryan when she is running the point and I love her energy. I'm not saying she needs to start, Ryan is still the best option there but I would like to see more of Wilson off the bench when our offense goes stagnant and needs someone to move the ball around and not dribble it for a good chunk of the shot clock like Ryan does sometimes.
 

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You don't fire or push out a guy that took a doormat program that was lucky to get 100 people to attend a game into a nationally respected program and one of the best attendance in the country. We had over 10,000 in Hilton on New Year's day. Last year we ranked 6th in the country for attendance.

I mean, but that was also 30 years ago. He raised the bar, but the bar for womens basketball has been raised all over since those days. All the stuff you list was also true 20 years ago, and sports is a very 'what have you done for me lately' business.

Plus declaring us a historical 'doormat' is a really short sample size when womens basketball in general was still basically in its infancy for most of the era prior to him. The big 8 didn't even have an official conference season other than a tournament until 83, and the NCAA didn't expand the tournament to 64 until 94.
 

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I think Audi is athletic enough to be better on defense. She has really good feet and that is what she needs on defense. Tonight she had zero fouls. It appears to me that the staff is not concerned about her defense or they would expect more effort on that end. Bill loves to run everything through one star, but when she is a low post it really looks like middle school basketball. It sure looks to me like no one else is comfortable in our current offense. I don’t know how to improve it now, but man it is a struggle.

We need to go back and run the offense we were running for the last month of last season.
 

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I mean, but that was also 30 years ago. He raised the bar, but the bar for womens basketball has been raised all over since those days. All the stuff you list was also true 20 years ago, and sports is a very 'what have you done for me lately' business.

Plus declaring us a historical 'doormat' is a really short sample size when womens basketball in general was still basically in its infancy for most of the era prior to him. The big 8 didn't even have an official conference season other than a tournament until 83, and the NCAA didn't expand the tournament to 64 until 94.

Well in the new NIL world how much money do you want to spend on a sport that doesn't break even? I like wbb better than most and even I realize now isn't the time to spend a bunch of money on something that doesn't break even.
 
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I noticed against KU she is much quicker with the entry pass to the post than Ryan is at times. She doesn't dribble around once she finds someone she is quick to hit them with a pass or swing the ball to the other side of the court. There just seems to be a little more "bounce" to her step that Ryan when she is running the point and I love her energy. I'm not saying she needs to start, Ryan is still the best option there but I would like to see more of Wilson off the bench when our offense goes stagnant and needs someone to move the ball around and not dribble it for a good chunk of the shot clock like Ryan does sometimes.
Problem is…Wilson is a non-scorer like AJ
 
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My 2 cents worth. We gave up the back door more than a $20 hooker when the Seventh Fleet comes to port. Our 3 pt shooting was terrible. Whatever money we gave Hansford in NIL was money poorly spent. Joens needs more playing time,

I realize the comparison isn't fair but TJs team is doing everything this one isn't playing Defense, moving the ball on offense, playing with confidence. I had high hopes for this yr team and after the KU game thought maybe we were turning the corner, tonight was certainly a step back from then.
Attendance was ok for a Sunday at 530 game nothing to brag about.
On the positive note the 2nd half of my nephew and nieces attended so it was great to see and visit with them and the grand nephew got to try ice cream for the 1st time today:)(he liked it)

Well maybe a trip to Az will thaw out our frozen shooting.
 
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My 2 cents worth. We gave up the back door more than a $20 hooker when the Seventh Fleet comes to port. Our 3 pt shooting was terrible. Whatever money we gave Hansford in NIL was money poorly spent. Joens needs more playing time,

I realize the comparison isn't fair but TJs team is doing everything this one isn't playing Defense, moving the ball on offense, playing with confidence. I had high hopes for this yr team and after the KU game thought maybe we were turning the corner, tonight was certainly a step back from then.
Attendance was ok for a Sunday at 530 game nothing to brag about.
On the positive note the 2nd half of my nephew and nieces attended so it was great to see and visit with them and the grand nephew got to try ice cream for the 1st time today:)(he liked it)

Well maybe a trip to Az will thaw out our frozen shooting.
Honestly…I felt the defense was pretty salty overall after the first five minutes. Let downs here and there just like any team has, but the stops they generated rarely resulted in points at the other end. Fennelly mentioned the rest of the team scored 10 points. Ouch.
 

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