*** Official #8 IOWA STATE vs #16 Kansas Game(Day) Thread ***

Erik4Cy

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Cut down on turnovers. It's getting ridiculous.

I would rather Heise and others miss a shot than turn the ball over and never get a shot up

Shoot the F'n ball if you have a good look.


And Rebound! If you get whooped on the boards like you were getting for large chunks of the game on Saturday it will not end well.

If there are fewer turnovers and better board play and ISU still gets beat so beit.
Not sure if it's a common basketball refrain and I haven't played organized basketball for many years, but my coach used to preach this, always better to get a shot up even if it's a bad shot vs. turning it over. At least you have a chance to score, and if you miss it's much easier to get set on defense. Turnover over not only has no chance of scoring but also gives the opponent a better-than-average chance of scoring on the next possession.
 
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The team with the softer big men in this game will lose. I know this is somewhat recency bias, but i dont have warm fuzzies about this game
My worry is it's a true must-win situation for KU (although also a must-win for us). But they've also lost enough already by KU standards (four Big 12 losses already, two at home only 10 games in) that maybe they've checked out a bit already?
 

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Otz ball wouldn't correlate with scoring during this time. He did great with making things happen somehow with the players available but it had to rest on the defense being able to muck things up.

I would like to see more of that tonight.
Yes, sorry, was somewhat unclear. I meant, because I don’t see the offense doing a 180, I hope to see Otz ball. Kansas’ strength is its defense, but I think they would fold late if ISU played a true 40:00 of “old” style ball. Most of their season has been a disappointment, ISU is “just” in a rut (not that it’s easy to get out of those). Now, I’m not sure the last time we saw Otz ball with Gilbert, Jones, etc., but they still have the pieces to do it
 
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One of the presidents will have to go off for us to win, I mean like a 30pt Jefferson night or something.
 

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I want to see an angry and determined ISU squad today. To be real, the last few weeks the team has just looked lazy, which is why they have had a lot of unforced turnovers. I don't know if they are just worn out or something else. It's a long season, and it's a grind. But we have seen them be mentally and physically tough. And it's that toughness that I want to see first and foremost tonight.
 

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We're gonna find out tonight what this team is really made of. Not expecting a win, but I am expecting ball movement and a helleva lot more toughness, especially from our Bigs. LFG!!
 
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I'm actually not worried about their physical nature at the moment. It's mentally that worries me. And I know I shouldnt be, but the way the last 2 games have gone will try anyone's mental character.
 

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My prediction is we are going to see a very stout ISU showing tonight. KU is going to struggle to score and we will see one of our better defensive performances. I think we will win this one 77-68
 

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Bill Self 58-0 in home Big Monday games? Hard to see it changing tonight.
Those teams that won those 58 games had walk-ons that could start for this years KU team. Not the same comparison whatsoever
 

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My prediction is we are going to see a very stout ISU showing tonight. KU is going to struggle to score and we will see one of our better defensive performances. I think we will win this one 77-68
If this happens the refs are going to have to let them play. I don’t see that happening in the Phog.
 
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