It's crazy how they just drop off him on the weak side, don't see that kind of disrespect at this level much.
*** Official #8 IOWA STATE vs #16 Kansas Game(Day) Thread ***
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Yeah, this staff isn't going to out scheme anybody on the offensive side. Just not what they do really, not even a slight, it's just not their thing.
I think they absolutely see it. The point just has to be made to him that he’s here to shoot the basketball and if they’re going to leave him they open he has to make them pay
Why not even run a few plays for him or Demarion? Teams are literally not guarding them.
We actually rebounded much better tonight, especially on the offensive glass. I think for the game Kansas had one more rebound than us. We were actually much better on the offensive glass tonight, but still giving up too many second chance points.
Also if I’m TJ I’m locking CuJo out of the facility for a few days. He’s missing everything short and I think it’s clear his legs are dead. Take this week to get him rest
Just got home from that absolute curbstomping, couple thoughts:
1. I am afraid we are witnessing one of the great collapses in Cyclone history. This could be 2002 football levels of bad
2. There’s no energy or emotion from most of the team. They’re just lifeless out there
3. Whoever is getting paid to run the offense should be out of a job. It’s like they made zero adjustments. Standing around and eventually throwing up a contested three or driving into 3 guys in the paint isn’t working.
1. I am afraid we are witnessing one of the great collapses in Cyclone history. This could be 2002 football levels of bad
2. There’s no energy or emotion from most of the team. They’re just lifeless out there
3. Whoever is getting paid to run the offense should be out of a job. It’s like they made zero adjustments. Standing around and eventually throwing up a contested three or driving into 3 guys in the paint isn’t working.
demoncore1031
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It has been like that for quite a while now, even in some of the games we won. It's the complete opposite of watching a Hoiball offense when he was here. Those offenses were a thing of beauty. And TJ's offenses have no flow whatsoever. Even my high school team had a better looking offense.
While I understand the last couple of weeks have been absurdly bad, it's WAY premature to start labeling this "one of the great collapses in Cyclone history." Expectations were sky high (too high, most likely), Milan got hurt - he'll be back, and very few teams avoid a rough patch in their schedule.
Expectations absolutely should have been high for this team. They were preseason #5 and just a week ago were in the conversation for a 1 seed. This will absolutely go down as one of the biggest choke jobs in ISU history
I think from a couch coach perspective the thing that’s most concerning is the team looks super disinterested right now, no emotion just out there dribbling around. It’s really bad basketball. I get Milan is out but did the ranking make their heads too big or maybe they’re just worn out, idk. Auburn, Duke certainly are looking like a title team like people thought we were but now I’m not so sure. Hopefully Milan being back helps, just survive until then.
The last part ...that's the glaring thing I really worry about as it's recurring. The off ball movement and screening just doesn't exist and it makes it so easy to guard. I don't know why we just have guys standing waiting for a kick out that never comes. Several possessions we didn't even try to post guys up on that 3 man weave.
And a team has to be near perfect to stay on the one line, and stay ranked in the top five. Most of the time not realistic expectations. Disappointing, for sure, as this team CAN BE that good, but we're seeing the lack of depth and poor offensive flow bite our ass. Nine games left, five of them in Hilton, and Milan back soon. There's time to get this right...let's hope they do.
So in your mind. We lose on a one in a million prayer shot to a top 15 metric team on the road, get blown out at home to a team under .500 but also is playing their best ball at the moment, then lose on the road to a top 15 team that has the #5 defense in the country and coming off losing after leading by 20+ points…all while we are out a starter that makes teams stretch defenses regardless if he’s scoring a ton…and we are in the worst collapse in our program history? Is that what you’re saying?
I’m in no way saying we aren’t playing like ****. But biggest collapse? I’m not there. Our next four games will say a hell of a lot of where we are.
Schmidt has been in charge of offense for years now. Yes, we have a better roster now but look at some of the terrible offensive performances in TJs 1st 2 years and this year against WV, KSU and tonight is a mirror image
They had plenty of open shots; just missed them. You always look terrible and disinterested when that happens.
They’ll bounce back.
They’ll bounce back.
Bill Self is 37-0 at the Phog on Monday nights
ISU whooped KU on the offensive boards. So there was energy somewhere
KU turned it over more than ISU.
KU held under 70. Defense was fine.
ISU missed open looks. Not my words Bill Selfs Problem is bench players won't shoot the ball.
Milan back next week. If the offense is abysmal after that I will go chicken little with others
