The Biggest Lies in Sports

swiacy

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Media using “hero” and “courageous” when describing an athlete’s actions. It’s a game which exists for entertainment. Those two words apply only to those who voluntarily serve to protect the rest of us. Ex. military, firemen, police, EMT’s etc. I always cringe when somebody like Jim Nantz describes Rory’s performance as courageous. Give me a break.
 

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I've always thought it's weird that "framing pitches" is admired in baseball and any other kind of faking or deception like that is generally thought of as being not manly. I'm not outraged by it or anything, but it's no different than exaggerating contact in soccer or basketball and fans tend to hate that.
I tend to agree. I would hope umps wouldn't be impacted by framing. I look forward to when balls/strikes is automated & framing is obsolete.

What I despise are catchers that move their glove 8-12" back in the zone. IMO that exaggerated motion can cost a pitcher a strike on a pitch that paints the edges.
 
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I watched an MLB playoff between Cubs and Dodgers a few years ago. The announcer said that Dodgers stadium was the most historic ballpark in MLB. Really? Cause before 1958, LA had no baseball teams. Many sports announcers live in LA and have a huge bias for Dodgers and Lakers.
 

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I've always thought it's weird that "framing pitches" is admired in baseball and any other kind of faking or deception like that is generally thought of as being not manly. I'm not outraged by it or anything, but it's no different than exaggerating contact in soccer or basketball and fans tend to hate that.

Catchers don’t really do this much any more. I think studies suggested it was counter productive.

And people can’t stand the soccer contact not because they are selling contact. They can’t stand it because players act like they’ve been stabbed, writhing in agony. Sell the contact, get the call, then let’s play. Soccer flops and acting is just so many levels beyond anything in sports in terms of selling a call.
 

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I’m not sure of the actual rule but you are considered down in college football when your knee touches except when you are the placeholder on a field goal or PAT. Even on high snaps when the holder jumps up out of their crouch and goes back down, they aren’t considered down.
 
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I've only heard that relative to playing a team twice in the regular season, then matching up again in the post season.
My reply was only in jest. The hard part about beating a team all three times you meet them is beating them the first two times. There is a perception that it is hard because it is generally rare. It is rare because you have to beat them both times in the regular season AND you have to be matched up against them in the post season. Those two things happening already make it not that common.

So I agree with you. I was just having a little fun with that big lie.
 
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I tend to agree. I would hope umps wouldn't be impacted by framing. I look forward to when balls/strikes is automated & framing is obsolete.

What I despise are catchers that move their glove 8-12" back in the zone. IMO that exaggerated motion can cost a pitcher a strike on a pitch that paints the edges.
I umpire a lot high school baseball. It’s not so much framing as just being able to catch the ball out in front of them and not pull it down right away. Catchers that hold out front for a second give me more time to paint the picture and review it in my head. Those catchers might get some extra calls but it’s mostly because I get to see it longer. Catchers that just reach or drop their glove or stab at gives me less evidence of a strike.

Now the guys that move their glove don’t get the call but there is definitely a skill in catching that will get your pitcher more calls.
 
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I tend to agree. I would hope umps wouldn't be impacted by framing. I look forward to when balls/strikes is automated & framing is obsolete.

What I despise are catchers that move their glove 8-12" back in the zone. IMO that exaggerated motion can cost a pitcher a strike on a pitch that paints the edges.
Or at least it should.
 

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I’m not sure of the actual rule but you are considered down in college football when your knee touches except when you are the placeholder on a field goal or PAT. Even on high snaps when the holder jumps up out of their crouch and goes back down, they aren’t considered down.
The holder is specifically exempted by rule. Similarly the kicker is specifically exempted from offsides when he plants his foot for the kickoff since this is almost universally past the restraining line.
 

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Sunday Night Football... Chris Collinsworth: "That is a Pro Bowl Player right there..." By the end of the game, about 80% of the players were pointed out by Collinsworth as a Pro Bowler.
 

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