Survivor 48

CYdTracked

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Camilla is not with Mitch and Star, wth. Its likely 5v3 one way or the other.
True, I think Mary is with Joe and Eva at this point, even she was kind of catching onto Kyle and Shauhin targeting David to save Kamilla. She doesn't really have a possible path to final 3 if she flips on Joe and Eva. Mitch is in a really nice spot after this vote I think, he could easily be a swing vote at next tribal if no one is targeting him. Star I have no idea where she will want to side as she doesn't really have any relationships other than Mitch so Star and Mitch are basically the 2 votes someone needs to swing to their side to keep the numbers in their favor going forward.
 

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Kyle playing the best game. Thank God David is gone. Long live Eva and Joe.
We'll see how it plays out. His move this week was either brilliant or stupid depending on how the next vote or 2 goes. David sniffed out his secret alliance with Kamilla but no one else would believe him. If Joe and Eva get voted out as a result in 1 of these next 2 votes then it was a good move and Joe and Eva will be kicking themselves for not believing David. I truly believe David was all in on trying to make the final 3 Joe Eva and Him and would have stayed loyal to that alliance.

I just don't get why Kyle is so obsessed with keeping Kamilla around. Him trying as hard as he did to flip that vote to Chrissy could have blown up in his face if anyone had starting thinking of another angle as to why he wanted Chrissy so bad like David pointed out several times. I realize we see everything going on with the edits they show but man he reeked of desperation that episode that I am surprised no one else in that alliance didn't start to question his intent.
 
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We'll see how it plays out. His move this week was either brilliant or stupid depending on how the next vote or 2 goes. David sniffed out his secret alliance with Kamilla but no one else would believe him. If Joe and Eva get voted out as a result in 1 of these next 2 votes then it was a good move and Joe and Eva will be kicking themselves for not believing David. I truly believe David was all in on trying to make the final 3 Joe Eva and Him and would have stayed loyal to that alliance.

I just don't get why Kyle is so obsessed with keeping Kamilla around. Him trying as hard as he did to flip that vote to Chrissy could have blown up in his face if anyone had starting thinking of another angle as to why he wanted Chrissy so bad like David pointed out several times. I realize we see everything going on with the edits they show but man he reeked of desperation that episode that I am surprised no one else in that alliance didn't start to question his intent.
It’s edited for television to make it look like that. Every single person ended up voting for Chrissy. Going into tribal council, they made it look like David and company were dead set on Kamilla. They clearly and purposefully didn’t show when David for sure was flipped to Chrissy. It might not have been so desperate looking to the other people in real life.
 

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Anyone not named Joe or Eva should be realizing the smart move is to get one of them off ASAP.

Not a popular viewer want, but if you're there playing the game one of those 2 are definitely going to win if they aren't booted.
 
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Kyle working so hard to keep Kamilla is a very smart move by him. Some people don't understand it. But if you remember back to the tribe swap they worked hard to convince their new tribe that they aren't aligned or even like each other when in reality they are each other's top alliance. He has a "secret" alliance the rest of the majority alliance doesn't know or believe. She is also in good social standing with the minority alliance. Giving them seemingly insurmountable power.

I really liked David and didn't want to see him go. He was right about the insurrection. But the better planners were able to work their magic and convince their alliance to believe their lie instead of the truth. Trust is huge whether placed correctly or not. Joe and Eva were duped I just hope they figure it out before it's too late. I haven't trusted Shauhin to stay with the "strong" alliance from the beginning. I really wanted the alliance to stick together. At the same time I can recognize and respect a good move/good game play like Kyle and Kamilla have been doing. Come on Joe and Eva pull this thing out.
 

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I just don't get why Kyle is so obsessed with keeping Kamilla around. Him trying as hard as he did to flip that vote to Chrissy could have blown up in his face if anyone had starting thinking of another angle as to why he wanted Chrissy so bad like David pointed out several times. I realize we see everything going on with the edits they show but man he reeked of desperation that episode that I am surprised no one else in that alliance didn't start to question his intent.
I see a couple reasons (both could be wrong).
1. Escape route if the strong alliance somehow collapses and becomes the minority

2. If he gets to final tribal, part of his pitch could be this 'big reveal' that he actually had a secret alliance with Kamilla since before the tribe swap. They conspired to pretend they aren't tight, she clued him in when Shauhin looked in his bag, he pushed the Chrissy vote to protect her, etc. I think jurors in this era are more apt to be like "Wow you fooled me! Here's my vote!" than to be bitter about the long con.

3. As others have said they share Guyanese heritage, and they seem to be close in age. If I was on Survivor with 17 strangers and one was another 30-something from Iowa, I'd feel connected to them too
 

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David was right about Kyle and Kamilla working together. However, the way he approached it was poor and his personality won't be missed. I really like Mary and Eva.

I expect Kyle and Kamilla to pull a big blindside. I agree with MeanDean that if the players want a chance to win they need to move on Joe and Eva. I hope Star stays alive, I wish they found her more screentime because some of her comments just make me laugh in a good way.

Mary is sneaky smart and I think with David being gone she might have the space to work with "bottom" and create a voting bloc that rivals Joe and Eva.
 
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Will Joe be able to turn on Eva at some point? He will have to turn on her. Her story plays well at final if they are both sitting there. I always wonder at my age what I would do. As a younger person I would have been savage and voted her out eventually. I am 51 and have a daughter around her age. Would I have it in me to blindside a girl like her? A girl with Autism and someone close to me on the game. At the same time I would be going on to the game to win. Not to make a best friend. I would want to win the game and to do that I might have to savagely cut my best friend in the game. IN this case it would make it way harder to do that.
 
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Will Joe be able to turn on Eva at some point? He will have to turn on her. Her story plays well at final if they are both sitting there. I always wonder at my age what I would do. As a younger person I would have been savage and voted her out eventually. I am 51 and have a daughter around her age. Would I have it in me to blindside a girl like her? A girl with Autism and someone close to me on the game. At the same time I would be going on to the game to win. Not to make a best friend. I would want to win the game and to do that I might have to savagely cut my best friend in the game. IN this case it would make it way harder to do that.
I think Joe would be happy to sit with her at final tribal. I don't know who I would vote for between the two right now, but might lean Joe. He's played a good game while also be a good person.
 

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I think Joe would be happy to sit with her at final tribal. I don't know who I would vote for between the two right now, but might lean Joe. He's played a good game while also be a good person.


I think Joe has played a little better. I don't think his story is as good in the final tribal and you know that plays very well at the end. It's not always the best player, it's the player who made it to the end with the best story or sob story.
 

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Will Joe be able to turn on Eva at some point? He will have to turn on her. Her story plays well at final if they are both sitting there. I always wonder at my age what I would do. As a younger person I would have been savage and voted her out eventually. I am 51 and have a daughter around her age. Would I have it in me to blindside a girl like her? A girl with Autism and someone close to me on the game. At the same time I would be going on to the game to win. Not to make a best friend. I would want to win the game and to do that I might have to savagely cut my best friend in the game. IN this case it would make it way harder to do that.
I don't think he would try to blindside her. Pretty sure the episode she told him about her autism that he said something like he doesn't care if he wins now, his job is to protect her like she is his daughter even if that means he gets voted out before her. I don't think either have it in them to turn on each other and would rather make it to the end together and let the jury decide.

I worry if Joe gets blindsided without Eva knowing how she is going to react. She has made it known that she can't tell when someone is lying to her so trust is a big thing with her and if everyone but her votes out Joe how will she handle it? She had a lot of power right now with an idol and safety without power advantage to keep her and if needed Joe in the game longer and both her and Joe are pretty good at challenges so as long as 1 of them can win individual immunity they can fight off a vote for awhile.
 

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If you're not Eva and Joe, do you try to bring them with you to Final Tribal just to break apart the vote? I could see jurors being split on which of them to vote for, or maybe you could frame it as "they needed each other to get here... I only needed me." I might rather be up there next to both of them than just one of them.
 
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If you're not Eva and Joe, do you try to bring them with you to Final Tribal just to break apart the vote? I could see jurors being split on which of them to vote for, or maybe you could frame it as "they needed each other to get here... I only needed me." I might rather be up there next to both of them than just one of them.

NO way you bring them with you. You were better kicking off them then the last guy. I know at home we root for people we dislike to leave. However, if I am on that show. I am bringing the biggest jerks with me to the finals.
 
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I think there is a difference between Jerks and Weak Players..... Get rid of the Jerks. Bring the weak ones with you to the finals...