NCAA set to allow direct payments to athletes

clone52

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The salary cap is collectively bargained and players can sign whatever deals they want for whatever money somebody is willing to pay them outside of their contracts. The off limits industries are also collectively bargained.
There is no reason the NCAA rules couldn't be collectively bargained and no one is limiting what college athletes can make on NIL deals, but the rules of their eligibility can also be collectively bargained.
 

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There's no salary cap on endorsements in professional sports.
But there is a requirement that any endorsements reflect market value. Every athlete has to submit their endorsements to the league for review, and if the league feels an endoresement is over market value it gets taken to arbitration for review. You think businesses that are friendly to NFL franchises won't give sweetheart deals to players to give the franchise more cap space wiggle room? Thats the case in the NFL anyways. I assume other pro sports have similar language in their collective bargaining.
 
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No one is going to pay attention to a tiny line item on page 242 of a financial report of a multi billion dollar company.
The hell they aren't. If it's so easy, than why aren't publically traded companies just funnelling money to their friends and family today?
 

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But there is a requirement that any endorsements reflect market value. Every athlete has to submit their endorsements to the league for review, and if the league feels an endoresement is over market value it gets taken to arbitration for review. You think businesses that are friendly to NFL franchises won't give sweetheart deals to players to give the franchise more cap space wiggle room? Thats the case in the NFL anyways. I assume other pro sports have similar language in their collective bargaining.
Exactly. There is obviously something stopping the NFL and NBA from paying players a minimum salary but giving them sweetheart endorsement deals.
 
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That's a pretty big 'if'.

I also really question how if we're going with the narrowest definition of FMV, which I grant to you will be the method that Deloitte uses, that any team in a smaller geographic area has any chance to compete. Texas can pay more than Alabama or Florida just by being in Austin rather than Tuscaloosa or Gainesville simply because there aren't market comps for other professional athletes in those areas and, therefore, the value must be lower.

Again, as I've said, I hope I'm wrong here and will be entirely glad to be if this thing works but until there is real concrete legislation being written, introduced and voted on that can get 60 votes in the Senate, it's all just going to be a constant state of chaos subject to whichever court ruling is the most recent.

I hope the rollout is flawless and the NIL valuations are fair and that smaller population areas and mid-majors don't get absolutely boned but I just don't see it. I assure you I'll be the first one here eating crow if I'm wrong and this thing has legs.
All of the parties to the Settlement signed off on Deloitte’s application of FMV and it sure as hell isn’t going to be “whatever a booster is willing to pay”. And Deloitte will apply regional based comps for their FMV valuations but those won’t be so onerous where all the top athletes start flocking to USC and UCLA solely to get the best possible True NIL deals.

In the recent hearings for parties to voice objections to the Settlement, there was no significant resistance to the NIL Regulation language, the primary and sole remaining objection is grandfathering of the proposed roster limits.
 
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Deloitte’s preso to the ACC cited in Dellenger’s tweet does conflict with Wilner’s reporting but the primary focus of Deloitte all along was going to be on booster entities. Given the registration of all NIL deals for IRS reporting, I am assuming high dollar deals will be red flagged regardless of the vendor.
 

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Exactly. There is obviously something stopping the NFL and NBA from paying players a minimum salary but giving them sweetheart endorsement deals.
Correct. It's a combination of a salary floor and strong player's unions. Neither exist currently in college sports
 

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I don't think you can put a cap on somebody's earnings without collective bargaining. As soon as a deal gets tossed, it's going straight to court and the NCAA has lost every single court ruling of note in the last 5 years.

FMV is very much what someone is willing to pay. If having Arch Manning in a commercial for a car dealership in Austin is worth $5M to the dealership owner, how can a clearinghouse say it's not? Never mind the built in advantages that schools in larger population areas would have if we're trying to regulate what the 'market' is. Arch is inherently worth more being in Austin than Rocco is being in Ames so why is it fair that Texas has access to more NIL opportunities and dollars if there is a booster in Ames that wants to pay the same money?

An anti-trust exemption is the only thing that is going to stop this from continuing to the be the wild, wild west other than donor fatigue and there are too many egos for donor fatigue to kick in.
They're reaching a settlement that lays out the oversight, what are the going to sue about?
 

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There's no salary cap on endorsements in professional sports.
Correct. Their endorsements have to be validated so it isn’t some off shoot off ownership trying to get around the salary cap though. That’s exactly what college is trying to do.
 

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That's a pretty big 'if'.

I also really question how if we're going with the narrowest definition of FMV, which I grant to you will be the method that Deloitte uses, that any team in a smaller geographic area has any chance to compete. Texas can pay more than Alabama or Florida just by being in Austin rather than Tuscaloosa or Gainesville simply because there aren't market comps for other professional athletes in those areas and, therefore, the value must be lower.

Again, as I've said, I hope I'm wrong here and will be entirely glad to be if this thing works but until there is real concrete legislation being written, introduced and voted on that can get 60 votes in the Senate, it's all just going to be a constant state of chaos subject to whichever court ruling is the most recent.

I hope the rollout is flawless and the NIL valuations are fair and that smaller population areas and mid-majors don't get absolutely boned but I just don't see it. I assure you I'll be the first one here eating crow if I'm wrong and this thing has legs.
You won't have to eat crow. Small pop and mid majors are going to get bent over and boned so deep their eyes are going to pop out.
 

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Future players didn't agree to it. It's not collectively bargained.

Maybe the suit gets thrown out but that would be the first W for the NCAA in, well, forever.
The last NFL agreement was ratified in 2020. Can all of the players not in the NFL in 2020 sue since they didn't agree to it?
 

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The hell they aren't. If it's so easy, than why aren't publically traded companies just funnelling money to their friends and family today?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL have you been paying any attention to what is going on in Washington DC right now?????
 
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I asked ChatGPT why this won’t immediately result in lawsuits and I thought the response was interesting. This is a bit long but does a good job laying out the pros and cons.

TLDR: a lawsuit is very likely, but not expected to be a slam dunk either way and will depend on how the courts interpret the case.






Excellent question—and it’s one that legal experts and critics of the NCAA’s NIL oversight have been actively debating.

Here’s why a lawsuit could happen, but why it’s also complicated:

1. Potential Legal Grounds for a Lawsuit

An athlete or booster could argue that:
  • Their economic freedom is being unlawfully restricted.
  • The NCAA or its clearinghouse is violating antitrust law by colluding to cap or deny compensation that would otherwise be lawful in the open market.
  • There is no federal law that prohibits someone from purchasing large volumes of memorabilia or offering a sponsorship deal at whatever rate they choose.
This is very similar in spirit to past lawsuits like:
  • O’Bannon v. NCAA, which challenged the NCAA’s control over athlete likeness.
  • Alston v. NCAA, where the Supreme Court ruled unanimously that NCAA limits on education-related benefits violated antitrust law.

2. Why It’s Not So Simple

However, several legal and practical hurdles make this a tough fight:

A. Settlement Buy-In

If this NIL framework is part of a court-approved settlement, and the athlete is part of a class that accepted the settlement terms, they may be bound by those terms. Suing later could be barred unless they opted out.

B. NCAA’s Defense: Competitive Integrity

The NCAA would argue that:
  • It’s not banning NIL deals.
  • It’s regulating them to prevent disguised pay-for-play, which could destabilize college sports.
  • The clearinghouse is a neutral evaluator, not acting as a price-fixer, but a market integrity monitor.

C. Courts May View It Differently Than Salary Caps

In professional leagues, courts often allow collectively bargained limits (like NFL salary caps), but the NCAA lacks collective bargaining with athletes. That distinction cuts both ways:

  • It means athletes could more easily challenge limits.
  • But the NCAA might argue it’s ensuring amateurism and preserving its nonprofit mission—a defense courts have historically accepted, though less so in recent years.

3. A Lawsuit Is Likely Eventually

Here’s what legal analysts expect:
  • A high-profile lawsuit challenging FMV enforcement or NIL restrictions is very likely once the House settlement takes effect.
  • It might involve a top earner (e.g. Olivia Dunne or Shedeur Sanders) or a deep-pocketed booster willing to test the limits.

Bottom Line
  • Yes, an athlete or booster could sue if they feel NIL regulations unlawfully restrict income.
  • But the outcome would depend on legal strategy, timing, whether the athlete opted out of the settlement, and how courts interpret the NCAA’s authority under antitrust law.

Let me know if you want a rundown of which courts or precedents might matter most in such a case.
 

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