No way Lucca should start at the 2. Think about this year. Who was the best ball handler? It was DG. The second best was Peterson, and as much as I respect and like him for his efforts and getting the most out of his ability, he lacked the size, athleticism and ball handling of a Big 12 shooting guard. Despite this, he was still better and more athletic than Staiger. So for next year you want Staiger, who is not as good as a ball handler as Peterson to start at the two? One our main problems this years is that there was no one who was strong enough with the ball in their hands to help out DG. It you start Staiger at the 2, then you are putting the team in the same scenario as last year, only worse since Staiger cannot handle was well at Peterson. You can't play DG at the 2 because he can't freaking shoot. No way you win with a guy in the shooting guard spot who can't shoot. I think there is only 2 viable options for the 2 guard next year. Colvin, and Christopherson. We have not seen either play, but if either of them handles the ball and is stronger with the ball than Staiger, they will start.
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No way Lucca should start at the 2. Think about this year. Who was the best ball handler? It was DG. The second best was Peterson, and as much as I respect and like him for his efforts and getting the most out of his ability, he lacked the size, athleticism and ball handling of a Big 12 shooting guard. Despite this, he was still better and more athletic than Staiger. So for next year you want Staiger, who is not as good as a ball handler as Peterson to start at the two? One our main problems this years is that there was no one who was strong enough with the ball in their hands to help out DG. It you start Staiger at the 2, then you are putting the team in the same scenario as last year, only worse since Staiger cannot handle was well at Peterson. You can't play DG at the 2 because he can't freaking shoot. No way you win with a guy in the shooting guard spot who can't shoot. I think there is only 2 viable options for the 2 guard next year. Colvin, and Christopherson. We have not seen either play, but if either of them handles the ball and is stronger with the ball than Staiger, they will start.
I remember Lucca looking pretty strong with the ball against Texas and Iowa.
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Really? I remember him being pathetic with the ball for most of the year. He has zero ability to put it on the floor to get into the lane for a pullup jumper off the dribble or take it all the way to the hoop. He seemed very hesitant and lacked confidence when it came to putting the ball on the floor for more than two seconds.
CycloneErik
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I think your post and snowcraig's are consistent. Lucca had a handful of games where he showed the ability to drive or handle the ball, but in most games that ability was nowhere to be found.
It's called being injured. imo, we saw in a few games what he could do when healthy. He probably should have sat out some games to heal. I think next year we'll see a healthy Lucca that plays more often than not like we saw him against iowa, nebraska, and texas.
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CycloneErik
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I bet that's about right. He should be able to play better.
Plus, the guys will be improving in the off-season, so I continue to be optimistic about next year's team.
Plus, he made nearly twice as many 3 pointers as anyone else on the team. That counts for something.
If we don't have any outside threats on the floor, defenses will collapse on ball/ post without hesitation.
do you think that there was a HUGE strength difference between them 2? Stinson could finish his shots/ DG gets pushed around because he is so weak
It's definitely strength but also has a lot to do with aggressiveness. Stinson had a will to score and a will to win that probably made him appear much stronger than he may have been.
I hope you are right, I hope his lack of ability he displayed at handling the ball, being strong and athletic with the ball, is because of his injury.
I think Lucca will improve a lot in the offseason. He's got good size and talent, and could become somewhat like a Matt Lawrence at Missouri. He's shown the potential to really light it up.
Absolutley... in no way do I believe that DG = Stinson. I'm just saying to be a 2, you don't need to be abe to shoot the three ball. Also, Stinson was a couple of years older than right out of high school like DG. Not saying, DG will be like Stinson was when he was a freshman now that DG is a junior. But it definately was an advantage of Stinson to have had 2 more years to fill out his body before his time at ISU. Again, even if they were on the same playing field in terms of age, I realize Stinson was more built, and a better finisher. He got the job done when the ball was in his hands.
I like the following lineup....
DG
Lucca
Gilstrap
Brack
Ham
IMO, DG is much better than Buck (although his potential is pretty good) at the point. He handles the ball well and we've seen him get much better from fresh to soph years at distributing it. His asst/to ratio was pretty good this past year and I'd expect it to get a little better next year also. I think you could put him at the 2 ONLY if you have certain favorable matchups next year and have a couple big men out there that can hit the three's (brack, gilstrap, dendy,jvb) and stretch teams out. To me this situation will be few and far between as I'd think you'd only want to play this lineup when you're playing a team who doesn't have a true center out on the floor.
DG
Lucca
Gilstrap
Brack
Ham
IMO, DG is much better than Buck (although his potential is pretty good) at the point. He handles the ball well and we've seen him get much better from fresh to soph years at distributing it. His asst/to ratio was pretty good this past year and I'd expect it to get a little better next year also. I think you could put him at the 2 ONLY if you have certain favorable matchups next year and have a couple big men out there that can hit the three's (brack, gilstrap, dendy,jvb) and stretch teams out. To me this situation will be few and far between as I'd think you'd only want to play this lineup when you're playing a team who doesn't have a true center out on the floor.
Brackins won't still be a Cyclone.
Lucca had 3 conference games where he scored 0 points.
Hamilton averaged less than 4 points per game in the conference.
Garrett made three 3-pointers during the conference season.
Gilstrap we know nothing about except that he'll be one year and be gone. And do you really believe he's going to show up and make a huge impact? Or at least the kind of impact we're going to need to win games.
If that's our lineup for next year I really, really hope, we don't have to play South Dakota State again.
I guess you think players never improve in the off season. I doubt Brackins knows forsure if he is coming back. It is hard to tell how JUCOs will do, but ISU has had some good ones in the past so time will tell.
This is why DG is so frustrating to me. He's the best we've got at this point so I'm not saying we shouldn't have played him or anything, but if you can't shoot the ball, you have to be strong enough to get in the lane and finish with authority....
If you can't do either, then you gotta find someone else to put on the floor who can...
