Size of the RB isn't the issue. Predictability and zero push by line is the problem. Capt obvious here but our lineman aren't very physical. I think Mangino is a little stubborn.
3rd down run with lead
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Yeah, and we got some yardage out of that. Ended up just short. But we moved forward.
It is not the first issue, but given the predictably and little push, I'd give a bigger back better odds to do it on his own...unless the smaller back (or QB) have the skill. Worse than being small, they run those plays like they close their eyes.
i remember two years ago win at Iowa......so many similar situations where all we have to do is get a first down and the game is iced.....yet we failed time and again. Miracle interception by Knot saved us on that game. It has to be this freaking offense.....and the stubborn coaches who have to run it with close games where it is not working. This is NOT rocket science.....is it that hard to have a arsenal of plays and some formations that give you a pretty good chance of getting a third and 1.....instead of the crap shoot wishful thinking we seem to do now. KSU defense coaches were just laughing at us.......
That man would avoid running out of bounds just so he could find another defender to run over
I'm telling ya, Levi Peters. How hard would it be to have him practice running the ball 10 minutes a day. It's not like it would take away from his time on defense, cause he ain't out there.
Wasn't he hurt today?
Either way, CPR's comments after the game make me feel that short yardage conversions will be a focus this week. Hopefully they work to get a play installed by Saturday. I don't think that you can put the QB under center for that situation because your going to end up with center exchange issues. I'd like to see some sort of pistol formation with the back still behind the qb rather than beside him. Perhaps one back (or bibbs) beside Sam and the second behind.
Totally agree about the line but having a bigger back would help...
Think it was the 4th down play but it could've been a 3rd and short, Wimberly got hit from the side at the LOS and fell straight down on his knee...a bigger back running "downhill" would've absorbed that hit and fell forward for the 1st down.
A guy weighing 177 lbs. should not be your short yardage back.
Pretty sure he was out there on kick-offs, could be wrong.
Either way, it's probably something that needed to be put in in camp. I just think it shows a lack of creativity.
I thought we could have Bibbs in motion with Sam under center. Where is our modern day, Ryan Kock when you need it?
It's a number of things, I think. The OL lack of push combined with a light, speedy back and a pretty telegraphed play call. I would really prefer a bigger back there, but it's all hindsight. Wimberly is a pretty good 1-cut guy too, so you want t say he can get a yard if he can get that cut.
I would have to see another replay, but it seemed like it suffered from slow-developing run play (or not fully committing to that) than pure-push/large back (although those things might have helped) ... you could probably do a play designed for a cutback, something felt tentative about it. Perhaps, as you say, it was because it was telegraphed.
The only thing that bugs me about 3rd down is we have no push on a short situation. They might as well thrown the ball in that situation, to catch the other team off guard.
Did you watch us stuff Waters on a QB sneak on 4th and 1 earlier in the game? I'm sure the K-State fans are wondering why they didn't put in a bruiser RB to get that yard just the same as we're wondering about it now.
But I agree with others who have said to use an I formation there. Who cares if they know what's coming in that formation, make them stop it. They already know what's coming with our weak *** handoff up the middle anyway.
It's funny because if we had passed and not made it, people would have ripped the coaches for not trusting the OL, etc. Second-guess no matter what the call is.
Bruns (or someone) was talking in the post game that with the DE lining up on the guards and the LB's blitzing that Sam should have checked out of that play into a passing play. It'll be interesting to see going forward if the coaches will give Sam the green light to do so and whether the coaches will actually encourage it. That seems to go against CPR's history, but maybe Mangino will have the say in that.
