A Solution to NCAA BCS Mess

cyclone22

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This eight team playoff has TCU and Southern Miss in? I don't think conference USA or the Mountain West should get an automatic bid. Have the top 2 seeds get a bye and the remaining four teams play each other.

That defeats the whole purpose of the tourney and will end up quashing the Boise St, Utah, and TCU's of the world. I mean this bowl conference BS hass gone too far!!!! A San Diego team is playing in the Big EAST!!! lol
 

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Where are you going to play these games? Are you going to expect fans to travel to 3 away games in the span of three weeks?

And people always bring up the NFL and lower divisions to help support their "NEED" for a playoff. NFL players are professional, they get paid. Lower divisions can have a playoff because NO ONE CARES. The public doesn't care about their games, and they don't care about kids they have never heard of who might get injured. Harsh, but true.

From the FCS title game will there even be one guy who plays in the NFL? From LSU and Alabama there will probably be 30.

The point is that for the very best players you are asking them to play at least two extra games. And what do they benefit? They won't be payed a "playoff share" of the revenue. They won't get more of their tuition paid. Exactly what does a player get?
 

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Will NOT happen. The teams in the championship game would end up playing a 16-game season! Football is a bad enough sport from an injury perspective, and people want to make it as long as an NFL season for some teams? Forget it.

The +1 thing is getting all the support now, and likely will happen. It is a GREAT compromise. The players playing in the championship game only have to play one more game than most other blow-playing teams.

You mean just like the FCS has to do?
 

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I'm against at-large bids. If you didn't win your conference, you don't deserve to go.

Exactly!

That's the biggest problem with this whole mess. Everybody wanting a shot because they think they deserve it as opposed to winning their conference and actually deserving it. If you don't like the tough schedule and the money in the SEC, then go to Conference USA, I'm sure they'd love to have you.

8 conferences, 8 winners play for it all. The problem is, it's too easy and makes too much sense to actually work.
 

cyclone22

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Where are you going to play these games? Are you going to expect fans to travel to 3 away games in the span of three weeks?

And people always bring up the NFL and lower divisions to help support their "NEED" for a playoff. NFL players are professional, they get paid. Lower divisions can have a playoff because NO ONE CARES. The public doesn't care about their games, and they don't care about kids they have never heard of who might get injured. Harsh, but true.

From the FCS title game will there even be one guy who plays in the NFL? From LSU and Alabama there will probably be 30.

The point is that for the very best players you are asking them to play at least two extra games. And what do they benefit? They won't be payed a "playoff share" of the revenue. They won't get more of their tuition paid. Exactly what does a player get?

A player gets to play football knowing his team has a chance to win a championship, even if they are not in the SEC. How bout that? Their hard work can be rewarded fairly instead of the having some historical tradition like Texas that automatically gets the benefit of the doubt.

Go watch some more ESPN Sportscenter if you think nobody cares about FCS teams because they are not in do not have pros. LOL. Ignorance at it's finest.

Fans do not need to travel to every away game now do they? And btw you realize the MAJORITY of college football players are not going to the pros there sherlock, they would love to fight to win a legit championship imo.
 

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A player gets to play football knowing his team has a chance to win a championship, even if they are not in the SEC. How bout that? Their hard work can be rewarded fairly instead of the having some historical tradition like Texas that automatically gets the benefit of the doubt.

Go watch some more ESPN Sportscenter if you think nobody cares about FCS teams because they are not in do not have pros. LOL. Ignorance at it's finest.

Fans do not need to travel to every away game now do they? And btw you realize the MAJORITY of college football players are not going to the pros there sherlock, they would love to fight to win a legit championship imo.



I don't think that most football players really think they have a legitimate chance at the national championship. How many players in the Big 12 went into this season thinking that they could win it? ESPN and the broadcast networks love national championships, but I couldn't care less. Conference championships are a more likely motivation for me. And I think just about everyone hopes for a conference championship. So, let's not make the national championship the thing around which we organize (wreck) our football system, especially the bowl games. The BCS System is far enough (or too far already).
 

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I don't think that most football players really think they have a legitimate chance at the national championship. How many players in the Big 12 went into this season thinking that they could win it? ESPN and the broadcast networks love national championships, but I couldn't care less. Conference championships are a more likely motivation for me. And I think just about everyone hopes for a conference championship. So, let's not make the national championship the thing around which we organize (wreck) our football system, especially the bowl games. The BCS System is far enough (or too far already).


Yep, that's the thing. As soon as they go overboard trying to find the "best" way to figure out the National Championship, it will be the end of college football as we know it.

A huge playoff system would completely overshadow the regular season. Teams outside the top 40, who couldn't make the tourney regularly, would have their programs plummet. The only thing a huge playoff does is make the elite programs that much more elite. You would basically end up with minor leauge NFL with everyone else relegated to being regular season schedule filler and glorified FCS teams.

A Plus One system will be a lot more effective than a lot people will make you believe. It forces the NC winner to play at least one top 4 team before the NC, eliminating teams that play cupcake schedules and aren't very good otherwise. It also means that more than one conference will among the top 4 teams, so LSU and Bama would have to beat Stanford and Okie State to "earn" their championship berth. That will shut up a lot of people who think their team should have had a shot because of how tough their conference is.

Bowl games are what make FBS college football special. Full on playoffs will kill the bowls, and the rest of college football.
 

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Yep, that's the thing. As soon as they go overboard trying to find the "best" way to figure out the National Championship, it will be the end of college football as we know it.

A huge playoff system would completely overshadow the regular season. Teams outside the top 40, who couldn't make the tourney regularly, would have their programs plummet. The only thing a huge playoff does is make the elite programs that much more elite. You would basically end up with minor leauge NFL with everyone else relegated to being regular season schedule filler and glorified FCS teams.

A Plus One system will be a lot more effective than a lot people will make you believe. It forces the NC winner to play at least one top 4 team before the NC, eliminating teams that play cupcake schedules and aren't very good otherwise. It also means that more than one conference will among the top 4 teams, so LSU and Bama would have to beat Stanford and Okie State to "earn" their championship berth. That will shut up a lot of people who think their team should have had a shot because of how tough their conference is.

BCS bowl games are what make FBS college football special. Full on playoffs will kill the bowls, and the rest of college football.
Yes, bowl games are what makes FBS college football games special-ly challenged. I disagree with your argument that a playoff consisting of conference champions would make the elite teams more elite. Bowl games are doing that right now. You think Michigan and Virginia tech deserved a BCS bowl game over K-state, TCU, Arkansas, or Boise. Take off your ESPN glasses.

and btw, this method i proposed, the other bowl games still exist as well.
 
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cyhiphopp

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Yes, bowl games are what makes FBS college football games special-ly challenged. I disagree with your argument that a playoff consisting of conference champions would make the elite teams more elite. Bowl games are doing that right now. You think Michigan and Virginia tech deserved a BCS bowl game over K-state, TCU, Arkansas, or Boise. Take off your ESPN glasses.

and btw, this method i proposed, the other bowl games still exist as well.

In the method you proposed, the money for other bowl games would dry up pretty quickly. Recruits would stop going to schools that will never participate in the tourney.

In a perfect world that would all be great, but I don't think it will work out.