A strong rushing offense alone will not result in more future wins.
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You are correct, my memory slipped, but the point was really more of the Air Raid offense opening up the game for the running backs and OU went 8 and 5, 5 and 4 in the big 12, this year they are currently 11 and 1.
So here are some stats for you. The current Big 12 rushing offense:
team games yards avg Yards/Game
Baylor 11 3207 5.7 291.5
WV 11 2657 4.9 241.5
Oklahoma 12 2820 5.2 235.0
Texas 11 2542 5.2 231.1
TCU 12 2626 5.1 218.8
TT 12 2458 5.6 204.8
ISU 12 2184 4.4 182.0
K-State 11 1873 4.1 170.3
OK State 12 1586 3.7 132.2
Kansas 12 1355 3.1 112.9
It appears that Oklahoma State is the only pass oriented offense that is ranked near the bottom in rushing yards and yds/carry, while Texas is the only non air raid offense in the top half of the Big 12 in rushing.
Ya, I suck at remembering. K-State was the only team having more TOP than ISU, so 11-1. My son as been compiling a ton of statistics on all of the big 12 games this year and when you look at them holistically it doesn't look good for teams that want to slow it down and primarily run the ball. In general, it's more offense comes for opening up the game with the pass and the use the run to keep them honest. Remember, Baylor led the league in rushing yards and yards/carry and no one would consider them a run first offense.
Seemed like the first half of games we would mix up the plays pretty good. Wouldn't know if we would run or pass.. Then in the second half we went run first and got stopped pretty easily by big 12 defenses. And the offense would stop taking chances because we had the lead.
Agree- time of possession doesn't mean squat if you're not scoring touchdowns. Long sustained drives have to end in points.
I desperately want our defense to at least TRY to disrupt receivers at the line of scrimmage. Anything to frustrate the high tempo offense.
I desperately want our defense to at least TRY to disrupt receivers at the line of scrimmage. Anything to frustrate the high tempo offense.
If it matters to you, UNI, Iowa, and OkSU also had more TOP than ISU did this past season...
We also need to create more turnovers. We doubled the sack total in 2015, but had JUST FIVE INTERCEPTIONS. You cannot win in the Big 12 with so few turnovers. I think our secondary may need the most work of any position group.
I think the statistic mentioned was rushing offense differential. Total rushing offense numbers for each team for an entire year would not be as predictive as the rushing offense differential.
It all starts with pass rush. We got stoned at the line of scrimmage way to often. Even on blitzes. You can't give a qb that much time with the receivers in this league.
That's Funny..........Earle Bruce won 24 games in 3 years with a Run 1st.... pass on 3rd down offense....
How about Billy bob Snyder and his power running offense for 2 downs and then thinking about passing on 3rd down..
I think CMC knows what it takes to win football games...and he will win at ISU....and then hold on to your proverbial backside as his moves to his next job.....Unless of course Jamie wants to break the bank.
That may be, but I don't remember the last time I have seen so many sure interceptions bounce off of defensive backs' stone hands.
All those stupid stats Jamie was slobbing all over mean is that if you can't run, then you can't win.
Some people will dissect anything into issue these days. I'm sorry everyone but 99% of your opinions do not matter, and about 99.9% of the crap people manifest into infamy based on their 'original' ideas and feelings will be laughed at by 100% of future aliens who find this giant crap hole we call the interwebs. (steps off soap box, places bar of soap into mouth)
Some people will dissect anything into issue these days. I'm sorry everyone but 99% of your opinions do not matter, and about 99.9% of the crap people manifest into infamy based on their 'original' ideas and feelings will be laughed at by 100% of future aliens who find this giant crap hole we call the interwebs. (steps off soap box, places bar of soap into mouth)
Have you heard of a school called K State?
Or Iowa. Just the two schools that we would have the best chance of emulating.
What Pollard said was, "The last three years in the Big 12, the team that rushes for more yards wins 80% of the games." So, in conference games, if you out-rush your opponent you will win 80% of the time.
I do think a little context is important, in that teams like Baylor and TCU who make a living on big pass plays end up with a lot of rushing yards because they tend to build big leads over non-elite teams, and then they spend a significant part of the 2nd half running while the opponent has to pass to try and dig out of the hole. That's not to take away from the athletes and schemes of Baylor, TCU, OU and OSU, but forcing your opponent to throw either because they can't run or don't have time to run is a factor. That said, if you ARE taking away the running game and building big leads, you're doing a lot of other things well too.
I do think a little context is important, in that teams like Baylor and TCU who make a living on big pass plays end up with a lot of rushing yards because they tend to build big leads over non-elite teams, and then they spend a significant part of the 2nd half running while the opponent has to pass to try and dig out of the hole. That's not to take away from the athletes and schemes of Baylor, TCU, OU and OSU, but forcing your opponent to throw either because they can't run or don't have time to run is a factor. That said, if you ARE taking away the running game and building big leads, you're doing a lot of other things well too.
I've already spoken with coach Campbell regarding this issue because I also agree. I've included the only play we need.
To the rest of the Big XII; Your move....
To the rest of the Big XII; Your move....
Iowa State has been best historically when the offense is run first. Iowa State has been best historically when the offensive line is one of the better units on the team. Other teams in the Midwest have shown great success with run first systems designed behind an exceptional o-line such as Wiscy, Iowa, and K-State. Pollard put us in the right direction with this hire. I just hope Campbell and Manning can find ways to consistently get that o-line in the top half of the conference. If they can do that the rest of the offense will fall into place.
