After much thought, my best-case, realistic realignment scenario.

[cyIclSoneU]

So listening to KXNO today and a caller I thought had a really good idea...

Big 8 + add Cinnci, Memphis, BYU and San Diego st for all sports

For basketball those 12 teams + Witchita State and Creighton for bball only..

12 team fball and 14 team bball conf.

This would be an unreal bball conf and easily best bball conf and it wouldn't be close..


It would be must watch TV bball conf and could certainly help increase revenue lost on fball side

Don’t add extra mouths to feed IMO. Go to 10 or 12 for all sports with no single-sport affiliates. I also doubt Creighton would jump from the Big East but maybe if we paid enough

 

[tsirnickesqcy]

I agree completely, and I think they will dramatically miscalculate this. People will just watch the NFL. Not to mention, I wonder if NBC and CBS would try to expand into Saturdays with the NFL in the future as long as they are out of CFB.

they will but it will take 20-30 years to play out…

 

[cytor]

So we basically have a 4 year audition for the Big Ten?
Ride the Big 8 wave
Win back to back to back to back Big 12 championships in football then accept our invitation

This will all get decided in about a year, 2 tops. I agree, ISU needs to kick butt in every sport possible. The auditions are about to begin.

 

[tsirnickesqcy]

This will all get decided in about a year, 2 tops. I agree, ISU needs to kick butt in every sport possible. The auditions are about to begin.

I think it’s useless. Enjoy this year. I will be. Hopefully win the Big 12. Get a championship. Maybe go to the playoff. Send college football as we know it out with a bang.

 

[RedBlooded]

My ideal new conference. B12 2.0
Northeast: ISU, KU, KsU, Cincinnati, WVU, Navy.
Southwest: OSU, Tech, TCU, Airforce, BYU Houston.

 

[scyclonekid]

So big ten or however we and others stay afloat

 

[scyclonekid]

A stitched together big 12 is not an option due to MONEY reasons

 

[isucy86]

they will but it will take 20-30 years to play out…

Televised sports in general could look very different and it may only be 3-4 years from now.

In CFB the Big10, Pac12 and Big12 media rights agreements are all up for renewal before 2025. Plus the top programs in the ACC are going to expect ESPN to make their deal significantly richer- it's probably going to take $250-300M more annually.

Lastly, the expanded playoff to 12 teams is what drove OU & Texas to the SEC. I am sure all parties involved felt with OU & Texas the SEC could get 4-6 teams in the 12 team playoff format. It will be interesting to see if schools back of and we end up at 8 teams.

The other P5 & G5 schools can leverage the playoff size to now bring the SEC to the table. So this might be worked out for the better of the 100+ P5/G5 programs. Aka automatic berths for any conference P5/5G Conference Champ which is ranked in top 15.

 

[HouClone]

Don't we still have that pro rated clause in our contract with ESPN and Fox for adding teams? Basically, every team that gets added would be $25 million / year (12.5 million each?). It would be great if we add BYU for the next 4 years and just apply it to ESPN. If the conference folds, well, BYU just goes back to independent.

 

[tsirnickesqcy]

Televised sports in general could look very different and it may only be 3-4 years from now.

In CFB the Big10, Pac12 and Big12 media rights agreements are all up for renewal before 2025. Plus the top programs in the ACC are going to expect ESPN to make their deal significantly richer- it's probably going to take $250-300M more annually.

Lastly, the expanded playoff to 12 teams is what drove OU & Texas to the SEC. I am sure all parties involved felt with OU & Texas the SEC could get 4-6 teams in the 12 team playoff format. It will be interesting to see if schools back of and we end up at 8 teams.

The other P5 & G5 schools can leverage the playoff size to now bring the SEC to the table. So this might be worked out for the better of the 100+ P5/G5 programs. Aka automatic berths for any conference P5/5G Conference Champ which is ranked in top 15.

Here’s what drove Texas and OU to the SEC………………….$$$$

 

[cytor]

The most important factor for ISU is they need to get into a situation where they get more money, regardless of conference. The B1G is their best bet in that scenario. If we are going to be relevant, we can't go backwards.

 

[AuH2O]

Televised sports in general could look very different and it may only be 3-4 years from now.

In CFB the Big10, Pac12 and Big12 media rights agreements are all up for renewal before 2025. Plus the top programs in the ACC are going to expect ESPN to make their deal significantly richer- it's probably going to take $250-300M more annually.

Lastly, the expanded playoff to 12 teams is what drove OU & Texas to the SEC. I am sure all parties involved felt with OU & Texas the SEC could get 4-6 teams in the 12 team playoff format. It will be interesting to see if schools back of and we end up at 8 teams.

The other P5 & G5 schools can leverage the playoff size to now bring the SEC to the table. So this might be worked out for the better of the 100+ P5/G5 programs. Aka automatic berths for any conference P5/5G Conference Champ which is ranked in top 15.

ACC will be interesting when it’s up. There are some real dog turds from a football viewing perspective - Wake, BC, Duke, and some others that don’t move the needle like Cuse, Pitt, Louisville, UVa. Then again all the conferences face this. It will interesting to see how these conferences deal with the dead weight.

 

[tsirnickesqcy]

ACC will be interesting when it’s up. There are some real dog turds from a football viewing perspective - Wake, BC, Duke, and some others that don’t move the needle like Cuse, Pitt, Louisville, UVa. Then again all the conferences face this. It will interesting to see how these conferences deal with the dead weight.

Pitt and Louisville have TV markets though which despite whatever BS you hear is still obviously the driving force again.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

Don't we still have that pro rated clause in our contract with ESPN and Fox for adding teams? Basically, every team that gets added would be $25 million / year (12.5 million each?). It would be great if we add BYU for the next 4 years and just apply it to ESPN. If the conference folds, well, BYU just goes back to independent.

No, ESPN negotiated out that clause in exchange for more money for everybody back in 2016, when the conference flirted with expansion among the Houston and Cincinnati types.

 

[awd4cy]

My ideal new conference. B12 2.0
Northeast: ISU, KU, KsU, Cincinnati, WVU, Navy.
Southwest: OSU, Tech, TCU, Airforce, BYU Houston.

Yikes

 

[I@ST1]

Their AD is less valuable than ours. People have to get this idea out of their head that we're "poor little ISU". First off it's wrong and secondly it's not helpful.

How does being realistic - not helpful??? You need to get a grip.

 

[AuH2O]

Pitt and Louisville have TV markets though which despite whatever BS you hear is still obviously the driving force again.

So we can expect TCU to get picked up anytime then? DFW metro is 3x and 6x that of Pitt and Louisville.

And ISU -Okie st on Fox drew more viewers than Pitt vs the great White Whale of Notre Dame.

So no, Pitt and Louisville aren’t valuable. They aren’t horrible, but these aren’t big markets, don’t draw eyeballs if not playing ND or Clemson, and have attendance in the 40s.

 

[Cyclones1969]

Not so fast, other Conferences are trying to hold/wait on expanding play-offs to 12 teams. They are also trying to see if ESPN and Greg Sankey are trying to monopolize this whole thing. Sankey will be investigated in this whole thing. This is the USA. A country of laws.
The remaining 8 teams just need to hold on, stay calm and remain together. We break, we fall.
I also liked Tim Brando’s take on Sicem365 radio today. He’s said the remaining 8 teams just need to calm down and not rush. There’s a lot of money out there owed to us.Other than the greedy SEC, nobody wants ESPN to monopolize this whole thing. Fox,B1G and other media won’t just bow down to the greediness going on here. With Gene Smith saying they should hold on to playoff expansion, it would be nice to leave it at 4 for 10 yrs as that would mean Oklahoma and Texas become more irrelevant. Imagine ISU in the playoffs and Oklahoma and Texas watching ISU vs Alabama. Lol

Yeah everyone on here feeding off the doom and gloom we bring nothing to the table and we’re just Iowa State people working themselves into a tizzy need to chill out.

whatever happens is going to take awhile. We’re in the opening drive of the game. The fans of the schools may want this to be over by Tuesday, but fortunately the people making the actual decisions know better.

 

[Cyclones1969]

Somewhat true.
Problem - nobody lives in either state.
Leagues may want into the Texas market - 2nd most populous state.
We have AAU, as does KU. They have basketball. We have currently good football.
Not sure either meet the $ criteria.

For the tenth time, basic cable doesn’t matter anymore. This is not the 2010 that your hawk fan friends are trying to hold over your head.

 

[tsirnickesqcy]

So we can expect TCU to get picked up anytime then? DFW metro is 3x and 6x that of Pitt and Louisville.

And ISU -Okie st on Fox drew more viewers than Pitt vs the great White Whale of Notre Dame.

So no, Pitt and Louisville aren’t valuable. They aren’t horrible, but these aren’t big markets, don’t draw eyeballs if not playing ND or Clemson, and have attendance in the 40s.

TCU doesn’t get but a small slice of the DFW market. If they did they wouldn’t have had to jump to 16 conferences he last however many years. Pitt and Louisville aren’t valuable per se but they open up new opportunities. TCU is just a poor excuse to make up for AtM after they left.