And so it begins... NIL

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There was little preventing the same thing from happening before, and it very likely did happen. NIL rights just bring it out from under the table.
Absolutely true. But I think we can expect it to increase in scale. Also, bringing it above board could benefit ISU more than UT in relative terms, who knows...
 

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Tuition, room, and board have also roughly doubled twice since 2000. Ask any student swimming in student loan debt the value and freedom that a free education could provide.

Here's a great example, the owners of heartland soles shoe store in Johnston went to an NAIA school on a free ride to run. They have just bought their third store, and own a residence and have a child. All before the age of 30 and heavily supported by graduating college debt free. Picked Johnston because they ran in tbe drake relays and thought the metro had a passion for running. No other ties to Iowa.

While that’s true the players have no control over it and it’s all still a non fungible benefit. The “cost” to attend school has gone up for the AD but the experience of being a scholarship athlete is roughly the same.

In 2000 Eustachy was the highest paid state employee at like 1.2 million. Now both of our coordinators almost make that.
 
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You've been wrong for years on this, you're wrong now. Weird to be proud of it though. Congrats on cheering on the very ******** that's going to kill something most of us love though, using the most dumbass arguments possible to get there.
Proud that the pendulum has swung the other way, and athletes have power to move and profit? Yes, I am. That's the way it should have been all along.

There's no reward for propping up a dinosaur, alarson. You know that, right? Nobody's going to give you a pat on the head for clinging to a corpse. That only leaves you bitter and relegated to the dustbin of history.

It's time to move on.
 
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Proud that the pendulum has swung the other way, and athletes have power to move and profit? Yes, I am. That's the way it should have been all along.

There's no reward for propping up a dinosaur, alarson. You know that, right? Nobody's going to give you a pat on the head for clinging to a corpse. That only leaves you bitter and relegated to the dustbin of history.

It's time to move on.

Lol, **** off. No other league works this way for good reason, yet somehow this is a good thing for college sports. No. Athletes always had a choice. They could have gone on to professional opportunities but they chose college, even with the restrictions that were necessary for college sports (and any league for that matter!) to function well. Because no matter how many lies you and others made up, athletes on the whole were being compensated more than fairly.

And I imagine over the next several years a lot of people will be moving on. Because the results of this are to reduce college sports to an entirely unenjoyable product for most fans. I'd love to be able to say 'i told you so' at that point, but this website probably has a clock on it too thanks to that.
 
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Lol, **** off. No other league works this way for good reason, yet somehow this is a good thing for college sports. No. Athletes always had a choice. They could have gone on to professional opportunities but they chose college, even with the restrictions that were necessary for college sports (and any league for that matter!) to function well. Because no matter how many lies you and others made up, athletes on the whole were being compensated more than fairly.
It's time to move on. The genie's not going back in the bottle. It's over. You lost, bud.
 
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Lol, **** off. No other league works this way for good reason, yet somehow this is a good thing for college sports. No. Athletes always had a choice. They could have gone on to professional opportunities but they chose college, even with the restrictions that were necessary for college sports (and any league for that matter!) to function well. Because no matter how many lies you and others made up, athletes on the whole were being compensated more than fairly.

And I imagine over the next several years a lot of people will be moving on. Because the results of this are to reduce college sports to an entirely unenjoyable product for most fans. I'd love to be able to say 'i told you so' at that point, but this website probably has a clock on it too thanks to that.
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Lol, **** off. No other league works this way for good reason, yet somehow this is a good thing for college sports. No. Athletes always had a choice. They could have gone on to professional opportunities but they chose college, even with the restrictions that were necessary for college sports (and any league for that matter!) to function well. Because no matter how many lies you and others made up, athletes on the whole were being compensated more than fairly.

And I imagine over the next several years a lot of people will be moving on. Because the results of this are to reduce college sports to an entirely unenjoyable product for most fans. I'd love to be able to say 'i told you so' at that point, but this website probably has a clock on it too thanks to that.
This is all spot on. I mean if it gets to a point every time we lose a Mike Rose, Beeece Hall - or insert talented player - they have on good year and we lose them, this sport will suck. I’ll be totally drained and not excited about it. What makes it fun is that it’s a game about a TEAM, that suffers when it’s new guys every year
 
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Proud that the pendulum has swung the other way, and athletes have power to move and profit? Yes, I am. That's the way it should have been all along.

There's no reward for propping up a dinosaur, alarson. You know that, right? Nobody's going to give you a pat on the head for clinging to a corpse. That only leaves you bitter and relegated to the dustbin of history.

It's time to move on.
Time to embrace it and advocate for tweaks that could make it better than an arms race ISU has a century of struggling with.

The old way had tremendous barriers. History and tradition and location. Near monopolistic. Fates determined last century when state funding made winners. Give me change.

Not just ISU wants reasonable NIL and pay to play. Every non-blueblood wants it. KU has things money can’t buy. ANY structure will be an advantage to blueblood, but one that isn’t nearly completely dependent on tradition less so. If not completely unregulated and unreasonable, it’s an increase in competitive balance.

ISU may be near the bottom of the large middle class that could benefit…ironically because of decades of the barriers. But it’s coming either way.

We need to stop being foolish about wanting players to falsely be commodities that shouldn’t get paid just because it’s cheap, or that it’s any worse ROI than the millions we spend on college athletics ecosystem.
 
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