Another Article on Possible Big XII Expansion
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So, basically, the Big Xii has their head in he sand and is not going to be pro-active. This will not end well for Iowa State.
alaCYCLONE
So much smoke around the Big 12 expansion topic.
I love 10, don't get me wrong. However, I wouldn't mind expanding to 12...with the right 2 teams. Let it play out 20 years and see what other teams begin to get disenfranchised with their current conferences.
I love 10, don't get me wrong. However, I wouldn't mind expanding to 12...with the right 2 teams. Let it play out 20 years and see what other teams begin to get disenfranchised with their current conferences.
But waters down the schedule, making it easier for us to make one of these worthless 6 & 6 bowls I've been watching on tv. I'll trade a few million to return to the days of mediocre cyclone football.
This.
Louisville should have been in the Big 12 even if our other moves meant we had an awkward 11. They were begging, they're better than any alternatives out there being explored now. Huge F up.
If we have Louisville and WVU as the new teams for 10 we add BYU-football only and either TCU/Cincy full member or BSU football only if we really need 12 for a title game. If we had TCU and WVU already like we did in reality, you still add Louisville for 11 (Big 10 did fine with 11 for nearly two decades) and then if we need 12 and a playoff game you go BYU football only. Nice and neat either way, no diluting the quality of football, no diluting the overall quality of the conference, no major geography issues, adding new markets and fans.
At this point there's a much better chance that the Power 5 break away and that union is what keeps ISU in a major conference rather than the idea there's a Big 12 20-30 years from now. I'm not so certain a one loss Texas or OU wouldn't also have gotten leap frogged by a Big Cash conference team...and that would have basically ended our conference at the next soonest chance for it.
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Pac 16 means the least money for ISU because welcome to the American Athletic. KU as a future Big Ten poach means less for ISU too. Two more teams to make the SEC a 16 team league means less for ISU as well.
The big question is what delays that at least until the power leagues break away and possibly restructure? We were moving along just fine until the recent illustration of how the Big Ten is in charge of college football no matter how bad its football teams suck donkey balls. There is cause for concern...I'm just not positive expansion can even do anything about it. Everyone else will get it up the rear from the Big Ten until they're officially associated with them as some sort of football super league.
Cannot change the Louisville miss, but Cincinnati is still available and would make an excellent 11th team for all the same reasons and is a larger University in a larger TV market in a better recruiting ground than Louisville. The Big Xii needs to invite UC NOW!
alaCYCLONE
As it should be. The chance to get viable additions has passed for now. Best to wait and hope the SEC and BIG can weaken the ACC.
I doubt this is feasible, but it'd be best for Big 12 and ACC programs overall if the conferences reached some sort of agreement where the next time the Big Cash, SEC or Pac poaches a team from one league, the two just merge into what at that time would likely be a 20-22 team conference with two 10 or 11 team divisions that would be a great geographic fit. Resulting conference would be a major player even if a marquee teams like Texas, OU or FSU is the poached one...TV contract would be on par with the other 3 and we'd be at the 4 league NFL 2.0 that Larry Scott wanted.
Again probably not feasible, but if either conference gets poached of 2 more teams a merger is easily what is best for teh two.
Yes. Because ISU pretty much runs the Big 12. If only ISU would command the other 9 members to expand then this mess would be over.
Maybe ISU could finally tell Texas to dump the LHN and transition the network into a true Big 12 vehicle.
Yes. ISU is playing with their heads in the sand
It's not adding just to add. It's adding to avoid being poached. One thing is for sure, the 10 team Big Xii is a short term solution. Personally, I think Big Xii expansion is better than the Big Xi being poached for Iowa State.
alaCYCLONE
If the Big Xii is poached, Iowa State will be a casualty. Therefore I think ISU should be a pro-active voice for EXPANSION within the Conference to avoid the Big Xii being poached. OR, we an just wait for the ax to fall and hope to be invited to the AAC or the MWC down the line.
alaCYCLONE
An ACC-Big Xii Merger / Association would work. Send Louisville and Pitt to the Big Xii to even things out!
alaCYCLONE
It's not adding just to add. It's adding to avoid being poached. One thing is for sure, the 10 team Big Xii is a short term solution. Personally, I think Big Xii expansion is better than the Big Xi being poached for Iowa State.
alaCYCLONE
The Big 12 is no less vulnerable with the additions you have promoted. If anything it would be more likely to collapse.
