Another baffling prohm timeout

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It's a good time out to hammer home secure possession. And expect your upperclassmen to be able in get a ball in bounds.
Then that's a lack of game awareness up until that point. We had issues in bounding all night.. This should not have been a surprise to Prohm.

Not to mention the play call should be different if you're tied or up one. Easier to coach one play than two at the end.
 

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If he was trying to get everyone on the same page, why did we inbound it to the corner? That is the number one thing you DO NOT do. Was Javan the guy he picked to inbounds? Wouldn’t it make more sense to have him on the floor?
 

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If he was trying to get everyone on the same page, why did we inbound it to the corner? That is the number one thing you DO NOT do. Was Javan the guy he picked to inbounds? Wouldn’t it make more sense to have him on the floor?

Relax we were only expecting a loss no worse than 10 points. Let’s call it a win.
 

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Harris still had the ball in his hands and should have been racing up the court, Guy was just not good tonight.

Have no problem with the timeout, lots of coaches call it right there in hopes to ice the free throw shooter Seen it done numerous times
 

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No offense but I bashed Prohm a lot on here but micro sideline coaching is crap. He got the guys ready. The guys showed fight tonight. Can’t we be possitive a little. I mean we took the 8th ranked team to the end. I get bashing him but geesh. Point out some positives sometime
 

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Harris still had the ball in his hands and should have been racing up the court, Guy was just not good tonight.

Have no problem with the timeout, lots of coaches call it right there in hopes to ice the free throw shooter Seen it done numerous times

Not when tied and only one timeout left. That doesn't happen. Up one or more timeouts? Absolutely.. But not here.
 

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No offense but I bashed Prohm a lot on here but micro sideline coaching is crap. He got the guys ready. The guys showed fight tonight. Can’t we be possitive a little. I mean we took the 8th ranked team to the end. I get bashing him but geesh. Point out some positives sometime

None taken. I usually do point out positives. Shoot, last week I was on the prohm defenders post talking about his awesome recruiting and guys leaving early. But these are things I can't ignore. I don't start posts here often... But I was angry! Our players put us in a positiom to win the game, and he made an error that took that away.
 

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No offense but I bashed Prohm a lot on here but micro sideline coaching is crap. He got the guys ready. The guys showed fight tonight. Can’t we be possitive a little. I mean we took the 8th ranked team to the end. I get bashing him but geesh. Point out some positives sometime
Rotation looked good.
 

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Not exactly sure.
Not when tied and only one timeout left. That doesn't happen. Up one or more timeouts? Absolutely.. But not here.
It is becoming more and more apparent that the only person who may understand basketball strategy less than Prohm is you. Is was not a bad timeout. You are complaining about timing of a timeout that is irrelevant.
 

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It is becoming more and more apparent that the only person who may understand basketball strategy less than Prohm is you. Is was not a bad timeout. You are complaining about timing of a timeout that is irrelevant.
So you think it's a good strategy to not have any timeouts for the last inbounds, or to call one once to advance to halfcourt? Riiiigghhhttt.
 

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So you think it's a good strategy to not have any timeouts for the last inbounds, or to call one once to advance to halfcourt? Riiiigghhhttt.
They did, he called it before the shot instead of after the shot. Some coaches prefer more space than set plays. Drives were working for ISU tonight. You dribble to half court and call time out and you pack the defense in tighter because WV likes to press. When teams press you get good opportunities to drive and get good match ups. So it would be a poor decision to dribble to half court and call time out. Rigghhttt????
 
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It is entirely reasonable to criticize Prohm for a lot of things. This is not a thing that is worth spending time on. I think there are a lot of coaches who would agree with that timeout, and I'm pretty sure I've seen other coaches take that timeout. If he hadn't, the complaint would have been that he didn't take a timeout to draw up a play.
 

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They did, he called it before the shot instead of after the shot. Some coaches prefer more space than set plays. Drives were working for ISU tonight. You dribble to half court and call time out and you pack the defense in tighter because WV likes to press. When teams press you get good opportunities to drive and get good match ups. So it would be a poor decision to dribble to half court and call time out. Rigghhttt????
Not as poor as not having a timeout against the press. You will not find many examples of a coach doing that. You one why? Because it's a losing play for exactly the trains we saw tonight.
 

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It is entirely reasonable to criticize Prohm for a lot of things. This is not a thing that is worth spending time on. I think there are a lot of coaches who would agree with that timeout, and I'm pretty sure I've seen other coaches take that timeout. If he hadn't, the complaint would have been that he didn't take a timeout to draw up a play.

I think youd be hard pressed to find another coach in p5 who calls their last to againdt the press to ice a ft shooter in a tie game. It doesn't happen.

I think a to of your taking one to draw up the play, should be at halfcourt, where you have an easier inbound.
 
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I think youd be hard pressed to find another coach in p5 who calls their last to againdt the press to ice a ft shooter in a tie game. It doesn't happen.

I think a to of your taking one to draw up the play, should be at halfcourt, where you have an easier inbound.
Whoa, you stepped on your testicles there. The easier inbounds is after a made shot. Johnson didnt run the baseline which you can do after a made shot. At half court you are set. Also, after a made shot, the defense is trying to set. They have to react to the offensive players positioning. The offense has the advantage since everyone is moving. After a timeout, both get a chance to get set and the inbounder can’t move to avoid the person in front of them. Best to stop while you are already behind.
 

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I think youd be hard pressed to find another coach in p5 who calls their last to againdt the press to ice a ft shooter in a tie game. It doesn't happen.

I think a to of your taking one to draw up the play, should be at halfcourt, where you have an easier inbound.

A timeout in men's college basketball still doesn't advance the ball to halfcourt, right? (I honestly don't remember, I tried to look it up and couldn't find anything saying that it does now.) So in that case, are you saying it would be better to inbound the ball against the press, then advance it past halfcourt just to call a timeout later? And even if you can advance the ball with a timeout, is it really easier to inbound against press defense on the sideline than it is when you can run the baseline?
 

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