Are you happy with Coach Prohm so far?

Are you happy with Prohm so faR?

  • Yes

    Votes: 328 86.8%
  • No

    Votes: 6 1.6%
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    Votes: 44 11.6%

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DiehardClone

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very positive results so far. Why would his religion bother anyone except some fringe nut. I see you may have fallen for the DMR strawdog.

Nobody has expressed concerns about Prohm's religion.

The fact that he intends to practice his religion with the team right before games doesn't sit well with everyone.

If we're gonna have this discussion, let's at least make it honest.
 

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Check the top couple of hundred high school players in the country and see how many are from high schools with religious affiliation, its an overwhelming majority. I don't think it will be an issue to anyone except those with an axe to grind against religion in the first place.

I'm religious but I wouldn't identify myself as evangelical. Myself I'm a little cautious about evangelicalism.

I like that prohm is going to hold his guys to a high standard. But I'm curious what he'll do the first time someone gets into trouble. Can't be kicking guys off the team.
 

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I'm religious but I wouldn't identify myself as evangelical. Myself I'm a little cautious about evangelicalism.

I like that prohm is going to hold his guys to a high standard. But I'm curious what he'll do the first time someone gets into trouble. Can't be kicking guys off the team.

You can play both sides easily as a CBB coach.
 

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Check the top couple of hundred high school players in the country and see how many are from high schools with religious affiliation, its an overwhelming majority. I don't think it will be an issue to anyone except those with an axe to grind against religion in the first place.

This is my potential concern and it isn't one yet because this hasn't happened yet. But I think there's a good chance that Abdel Nader, being Egyptian and named Abdel and all, is Muslim and not Christian. If he is, he probably doesn't pray the same way as a Christian. How do you handle that if you regularly doing team prayers?
 

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I'm religious but I wouldn't identify myself as evangelical. Myself I'm a little cautious about evangelicalism.

I like that prohm is going to hold his guys to a high standard. But I'm curious what he'll do the first time someone gets into trouble. Can't be kicking guys off the team.

Well, not saying it is the best option, but he can indeed kick guys off the team.
 

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You can play both sides easily as a CBB coach.

ideally that's what he'll do.

Hell maybe all that praying is working since it is August 11th and we haven't had so much as a public intoxication yet.
 

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This is my potential concern and it isn't one yet because this hasn't happened yet. But I think there's a good chance that Abdel Nader, being Egyptian and named Abdel and all, is Muslim and not Christian. If he is, he probably doesn't pray the same way as a Christian. How do you handle that if you regularly doing team prayers?

It's Abdel Nader, not OSama Bin Laden. I'm not religious at all and I think it's dumb, but I went to a funeral on Saturday and bowed my head with everyone else at this crazy-conservative church and just thought about bikini babes while everyone else was praying. It's shouldn't be a big deal unless you are a hardline fanatic.

Praying is just another word for hoping. It's not a big deal and I'm sure it's not the first time Nader has had to deal with it.
 

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You can play both sides easily as a CBB coach.

Baylor murdered a player and covered up the murder and the next year were saying they landed incredible recruits because of how religious they were. Doubt there will ever be a bigger example than that.
 

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I think the dude is a bum. Hasn't sent a player to the NBA draft. None of his players have graduated or been on the Academic B12 Team. No Tourney Appearances, or B12 Tourney victories. Hell, he hasn't even won a game yet. ISU should expect better than this! :realmad:
 

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Some folks are way too latched on to the religion part. Who gives a rats ***. Until it negatively effects (with proof) the team, who cares. Let it be.
 

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Some folks are way too latched on to the religion part. Who gives a rats ***. Until it negatively effects (with proof) the team, who cares. Let it be.
I don't know that anyone is really mad about it. I think more people are just worried it might cause issues.
 

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It's Abdel Nader, not OSama Bin Laden. I'm not religious at all and I think it's dumb, but I went to a funeral on Saturday and bowed my head with everyone else at this crazy-conservative church and just thought about bikini babes while everyone else was praying. It's shouldn't be a big deal unless you are a hardline fanatic.

Praying is just another word for hoping. It's not a big deal and I'm sure it's not the first time Nader has had to deal with it.

This conversation is more than played out, but I have no clue what that means. And your experience with religion has no bearing on someone else's experience.

Also don't see how your definition of praying relates to the situation at all. Were you trying to analyze the situation and offer something valuable to the discussion, or just show us how edgy your non-religious ways are?
 

jahfg

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But why? Out of curiousity.

It could cause a non-Christian on the team to feel excluded, and in a public school program, that is an issue. With the social justice/PC crowd, it could cause some public friction, dysfunction or even legal action. Religion makes some people uncomfortable and I completely understand. If I was a player, I can get over the lord's prayer before a game. It would be more difficult for me to have him consistently lecturing me using Bible verses.
 

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It could cause a non-Christian on the team to feel excluded, and in a public school program, that is an issue. With the social justice/PC crowd, it could cause some public friction, dysfunction or even legal action. Religion makes some people uncomfortable and I completely understand. If I was a player, I can get over the lord's prayer before a game. It would be more difficult for me to have him consistently lecturing me using Bible verses.

Has he done any of this? And that's the last time I'm posting in this thread if the religion argument is going to continue.

Prohm has done a great job so far and I'm looking forward to seeing how the team performs and the program progresses with him at the helm.
 

DiehardClone

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But why? Out of curiousity.

Since you asked, I'll answer. Not being particularly religious myself, if my company got a new boss and she started every staff meeting with a Christian-based group prayer, that would be a real turn off for me personally. But if I saw that everyone else was participating, I'd probably be in there also, because nobody wants to take on the boss, whether directly or indirectly. Would it be a big deal to me? No, but it would feel plenty awkward.

I'd feel the same whether it was Muslim-based prayers, Wiccan-based prayers or even Festivus-based prayers.
 

jkclone

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But why? Out of curiousity.
Even though I consider myself a christian I don't really like discussing it with others even other christians.

Religion is like a *****. It's fine to have one and it's fine to be proud of it, but please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around... and PLEASE don't try to shove it down my child's throat.

I don't think we will have problems, but I think it is reasonable to be concerned about it.
 

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It could cause a non-Christian on the team to feel excluded, and in a public school program, that is an issue. With the social justice/PC crowd, it could cause some public friction, dysfunction or even legal action. Religion makes some people uncomfortable and I completely understand. If I was a player, I can get over the lord's prayer before a game. It would be more difficult for me to have him consistently lecturing me using Bible verses.

I see Prohm much like the YMCA. Based on principles but all inclusive. I think it would be career suicide to do otherwise.
 

Gunnerclone

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This conversation is more than played out, but I have no clue what that means. And your experience with religion has no bearing on someone else's experience.

Also don't see how your definition of praying relates to the situation at all. Were you trying to analyze the situation and offer something valuable to the discussion, or just show us how edgy your non-religious ways are?

THis is how I know it's working. Thanks for the reinforcement.