Article - "Researchers say time is an illusion. So why are we all obsessed with it?"

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"A watched pot never boils." "Time flies when we are having fun."

If I have fun watching a pot, does time ceases to exist?
Not only that, but we are all deafened by the sound of falling trees.

Maybe that's what happened in Tunguska. Some drunk Russian in remote Siberia was just starting to enjoy watching the water churn in his little iron pot, hung from the hearth...
 

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I wish time were an illusion. Then maybe my 41 year old back wouldn't hurt so much when I wake up in the morning.
 
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Isn't time just like a roll of toilet paper. When the roll is first started it takes a long time to make it around.

The closer we get to the end....the less time it takes to get around

This. Is. All. A. Simulation.
 
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I agree it's an illusion that we all have to agree too. And it's all relative.

I sometimes have trouble scheduling meetings with overseas client. Remembering that they are 12 hours ahead of us. Or our Monday meeting is on Tuesday for them.

But imagine this with clients on Mars. Will we have to fabricate Earth time and Mars Time? Because 1 24 hour day on Earth won't spin a full revolution on Mars. So your sunset won't be at the same time every day?
 
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My wife and I are 6 episodes into the series "Dark" on Netflix (highly recommend it). From what I've gathered just from the show so far - not reading into it online at all - the underlying plot is about the Big Crunch and Eternal Recurrence. Or at very least, a cave in the bag woods of Germany where time travel is scientifically plausible.
 

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I agree it's an illusion that we all have to agree too. And it's all relative.

I sometimes have trouble scheduling meetings with overseas client. Remembering that they are 12 hours ahead of us. Or our Monday meeting is on Tuesday for them.

But imagine this with clients on Mars. Will we have to fabricate Earth time and Mars Time? Because 1 24 hour day on Earth won't spin a full revolution on Mars. So your sunset won't be at the same time every day?
This did a better job of blowing my mind than the article.

And it didn’t take me as much “time” to read.
 
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That article wasn't making the case time doesn't exist or is a "social construct" in some bizarre postmodern sort of way. It was making the case time gets weird when you account for advanced relativistic physics that only few of us understand and when you are considering some of the more extreme circumstances with gravity throughout the universe (e.g., black holes, etc.) that we're never going to encounter.

But in the context of day-to-day life for ordinary humans... it's a thing and absolute.
I don't even understand what you are saying, I don't have a chance of understanding advanced relativistic physics.
 

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There's no way I'm showing this to my family. My Sisyphean task is trying to convince my wife and daughter that time does, in fact, exist.
It's amazing how often my wife will tell me that we need to leave at x time so that we aren't late. I'll be ready on time and she won't be, we'll go out to the car, I'll start backing out, she'll say that she forgot something, ask me to get it out of the house, and follow that with, "And hurry up so that we aren't late".
 

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Thought there would be a few on here that would enjoy this article...subjects like this can get deep in my head...and drive me crazy with thinking about them...thinking about space does the same to me:


First thought after actually reading the article... "we actually waste tax payer money on this ****??"
 

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"And this is why people feel so tense about the time – it's actually a technology being thrust upon them. "Capitalism sucks, and I think a lot of people's relationship to why time is not cool, is structured by the resource pressures that we feel," she says."

Ah, there it is. There's the angle!
 
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I don't even understand what you are saying, I don't have a chance of understanding advanced relativistic physics.

Short version as I understand it (and help me physics majors) --

Time can flow at different speeds in different parts of the universe at high speeds or under intense gravitation forces. Speeds and forces that can be imagined by physicists in equations and observed in the cosmology of the universe, but not speeds and forces that ordinary humans on Earth ever experience.

Why would time flow at different speeds under different circumstances? That's beyond me.