Attributes of our Next Coach

illinoiscyclone

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i know basketball is different but hoiberg brought us from nobodies to in the national conversation in 5 years. if he can do it why can't we do it in football? blah blah the weather, blah blah, up north, but honestly - doesn't winning itself create a cycle of good recruits, etc.?

Not saying it can't happen, but I think the big difference between the two is the fact that there are 105 football players to a team vs 15 for a basketball team. Also, one player can cover up others' deficiencies more easily due to the roster size.

I think that a coach being young and/or african-american helps them relate to the players, which helps recruiting. I would love to play for a guy like Paul Rhodes but I am a white guy from rural Illinois, not a young black male from Texas or another far away land. That being said, things I look for in our next coach:

-His name to be PJ Fleck (JK, except not really) or Tom Herman (I know thats optomistic)
-Young
-Runs a ball control offense but can still spread things out (think Adam Gase)
-Texas ties
-Great recruiter (who wouldn't want this?)
-Proven (Don't want to sacrifice resume just for a young guy)
 

dirtyninety

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Someone that can give us the 49er uniforms....true gold and true cardinal. I think buried in the anti-trust ruling for the NFL and copyright law is a clause that Harbaugh could have taken those colors--which are the intellectual property of the San Francisco 49er Football Club, Inc.--with him to his next assignment as a contract courtesy. He was begging to come here....we just did not interview him. He would have picked us over Michigan I know...and brought our colors home.
 

Stormin

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This would be my list. One thing I'd add would be a player developer. Chiz got some good recruits in but didn't do that much with the talent. It's been really glaring under the Rhoads era.

Please stop with the myth about Chizik recruits. Chizik had a few good recruits and a lot of misses. Just like DMac and CPR. Honestly, in CPR's first year there were more DMac impact recruits than Chizik recruits. For example, Arnaud and ARob were both DMac recruits.
 

TheEsTasTaco

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Id like our new coach to be found on campus. hear me out fellas.

think of a matt damon character from good will hunting, but with football xs and os instead of being good at math and and the whole 'having inner demons' thing. pollard will be wandering the campus late one december evening and stumble into a lecture hall (preferably one with 9+ sliding chalkboards with plays and formations scribbled all over them) to find our future genius coach finding fatal flaws in the latest FiveThrityEight article under one of those low-wattage green desk lights. As the slow yet beautiful orchestral hums of Atticus Ross begin to play in the background, Pollard approaches the young man to start a conversation which would change his life...and cyclone football...forever
 

CyArob

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Id like our new coach to be found on campus. hear me out fellas.

think of a matt damon character from good will hunting, but with football xs and os instead of being good at math and and the whole 'having inner demons' thing. pollard will be wandering the campus late one december evening and stumble into a lecture hall (preferably one with 9+ sliding chalkboards with plays and formations scribbled all over them) to find our future genius coach finding fatal flaws in the latest FiveThrityEight article under one of those low-wattage green desk lights. As the slow yet beautiful orchestral hums of Atticus Ross begin to play in the background, Pollard approaches the young man to start a conversation which would change his life...and cyclone football...forever

And his name.... BodeClone
 

Luth4Cy

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What do you want to see?

Offense?

Defense?

Age?

Experience?

Coaching Tree?

Offensive minded, preferably a lot of o-line experience. Knows how to recruit. Hires assistants who have all the skills he lacks. Some connection to the Big 12, or at least hires a lot of assistants with a connection to the Big 12.
 

cyclones500

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Slow the game down, limit turnovers, play smarter, keep the other team off the field, be disciplined, successfully run the ball, play-action pass, develop players, retain players.....pretty much do everything that Kansas State and Iowa do.

If you're going with that blueprint, include attention to special teams, in every category.
 

CyInDFW

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I want a coach that either has experience as a head coach or has learned under a top coach.

I want one that runs the ball. Line up under center, let the O line hit someone, not dance with them at the line of scrimmage.

ISU needs an identity. We run the same offense as everyone else in the conference except KState. That means all of the teams out there practice to play us every week whether they play us or not.

Ideally, I want a coach that recruits well, has a background in running the ball, learned from a top coach and will bring in the assistants to teach and coach up the players. I don't care if he's young, old, slim, fat, bald, mullet, black or white...Just give us an identity other than losing.
 

drednot57

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Top 20 recruiter.
Knows how to recruit top assistants and coordinators.
Good FB CEO.
Essentially like Mack Brown.
 

all2matt

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as much as I would HATE HATE HATE to see it Brian Ferentz (I want him to stay at iowa as OC in future) may be a good coach at iowa st. NFL under proven winning origination and legendary coach (patriots), groomed and helped along under father ferentz, seems to know how to help develope TEs and OL while managing iowas run game currently, has ties to iowa/midwest for recruiting the types players that are produced locally. BF would probably run a similar but bit more flashy Off/Def than iowa does so that would keep all those glitz and glamour flag football offenses off the field in the B12. then hopefully play iowas bend but dont break defense looking for turnovers & FGs.

note I am an iowa fan but do watch my fair share of ISU games when they are on and the hawks are not playing. I just think you guys need more a midwest type team and that will be the thing that will make things tougher for the middle of the pack type teams in the B12 trying to gameplan your unique O/D instead of lining up aagainst the same spread offence they see 8 other times during the yr.

so maybe not brian ferentz but someone like him may be the right guy for iowa st
 
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dualthreat

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I want a coach that either has experience as a head coach or has learned under a top coach.

I want one that runs the ball. Line up under center, let the O line hit someone, not dance with them at the line of scrimmage.

ISU needs an identity. We run the same offense as everyone else in the conference except KState. That means all of the teams out there practice to play us every week whether they play us or not.

Ideally, I want a coach that recruits well, has a background in running the ball, learned from a top coach and will bring in the assistants to teach and coach up the players. I don't care if he's young, old, slim, fat, bald, mullet, black or white...Just give us an identity other than losing.

Well, we have to draw the line somewhere so I say no mullets.
 

Gunnerclone

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as much as I would HATE HATE HATE to see it Brian Ferentz (I want him to stay at iowa as OC in future) may be a good coach at iowa st. NFL under proven winning origination and legendary coach (patriots), groomed and helped along under father ferentz, seems to know how to help develope TEs and OL while managing iowas run game currently, has ties to iowa/midwest for recruiting the types players that are produced locally. BF would probably run a similar but bit more flashy Off/Def than iowa does so that would keep all those glitz and glamour flag football offenses off the field in the B12. then hopefully play iowas bend but dont break defense looking for turnovers & FGs.

note I am an iowa fan but do watch my fair share of ISU games when they are on and the hawks are not playing. I just think you guys need more a midwest type team and that will be the thing that will make things tougher for the middle of the pack type teams in the B12 trying to gameplan your unique O/D instead of lining up aagainst the same spread offence they see 8 other times during the yr.

so maybe not brian ferentz but someone like him may be the right guy for iowa st

I think that Brian Ferentz would be awesome on a whole bunch of levels!