BCS - Need a playoff

[URBCLONE]

Love this column by Wilbon. Sums up my feelings about 'postseason' NCAA FB exactly.

Michael Wilbon - Michael Wilbon: An Old Habit Was Sadly Kicked on New Year's Day - washingtonpost.com

In short, he argues that the bowl system is meaningless and that the only game that has been given any significance in the system is the 'National Title' game. I'm with those who want this decided on the field. Every year that goes by just confirms my belief that a 16 team playoff that incorporated 15 major bowl games/sites would be the best answer.

 

[Bobber]

Great article. Absolutely correct. I don't know when half the game are and really don't care.

 

[Aclone]

Ummm...in my opinion, college football is just a game, anyway. And if there would be a playoff, someone would be left out, or there would be an upset, and just as much moaning and complaining as there is now, anyway.

 

[URBCLONE]

Ummm...in my opinion, college football is just a game, anyway. And if there would be a playoff, someone would be left out, or there would be an upset, and just as much moaning and complaining as there is now, anyway.

Perhaps, but at least it would be settled on the field ie. the same way it is in every other major sport and league. The bowl system has become the equivalent of a participation medal in grade school athletics.

 

[Clone5]

Ummm...in my opinion, college football is just a game, anyway. And if there would be a playoff, someone would be left out, or there would be an upset, and just as much moaning and complaining as there is now, anyway.

Most college football fans want to see a playoff. Imagine if Iowa State was one of the teams that got screwed. Sure there are going to be teams left out of any postseason (thats how it works) but in a playoff more teams get a chance to prove they belong and we aren't stuck watching worthless bowl games. There isn't a chance there'd be more whining and complaining if there was a playoff.

 

[ajk4st8]

How would 40,000 ISU be able to pay for trips to follow the team through each round of the playoffs.

The BCS allows the best chance for the underdog to come in and get a piece of the pie. More so than the playoff system.

I guess I dont mind the way it is done now. At the end of the year the best teams will be awarded a national championship. OU or Florida and Utah.

Good enough for me.

 

[AIT]

Michael Wilbon is a pro sports guy. I doubt he pays any attention to college football until Jan 1. He's about the last person I'd listen to for advice to "fix" college football.

 

[Clone5]

How would 40,000 ISU be able to pay for trips to follow the team through each round of the playoffs.

The BCS allows the best chance for the underdog to come in and get a piece of the pie. More so than the playoff system.

People have come up with playoff scenarios to remedy pretty much every concern like this one. The BCS gave an undefeated "underdog" in Utah a chance this year didn't it?

 

[Bobber]

How would 40,000 ISU be able to pay for trips to follow the team through each round of the playoffs.

The BCS allows the best chance for the underdog to come in and get a piece of the pie. More so than the playoff system.

Games would be played at team stadiums. Look at division 1-AA for an example. Seems to work well and plenty of people at most of the games including the finals at a southern location.

 

[ajk4st8]

Yeah the BCS was great to Utah. Gave them their big win which could help them lock up an AP title.

Just my opinion. I just see the playoffs making the rich richer...

 

[Clone5]

Michael Wilbon is a pro sports guy. I doubt he pays any attention to college football until Jan 1. He's about the last person I'd listen to for advice to "fix" college football.

Yes, but guys like Kirk Herbstreit and Jesse Palmer and pretty much every analyst or writer who closely follow the sport agree that the bowl system is archaic and broken.

 

[URBCLONE]

People have come up with playoff scenarios to remedy pretty much every concern like this one. The BCS gave an undefeated "underdog" in Utah a chance this year didn't it?

Bingo. I don't understand why the travel argument even comes up. If you set the playoff number at 16 teams then only 8 teams would travel more than once, 4 teams more than twice etc. For some reason, the NCAA Tournament has no trouble selling tickets in the host cities even though many of those fans are local people unaffiliated with any of the schools playing there.

 

[AIT]

Games would be played at team stadiums. Look at division 1-AA for an example. Seems to work well and plenty of people at most of the games including the finals at a southern location.

Didn't UNI draw like 10k for their playoff games, well under their capacity?

 

[Clone5]

Yeah the BCS was great to Utah. Gave them their big win which could help them lock up an AP title.

Just my opinion. I just see the playoffs making the rich richer...

So you think Utah winning a probably meaningless bowl game is better than being able to advance in a playoff system? They will not be awarded the AP title. I see where you're coming from but I just don't get how some college football fans are apathetic towards this issue.

 

[Clone5]

Didn't UNI draw like 10k for their playoff games, well under their capacity?

It would pretty much be guranteed that every playoff game in an 8 team playoff would sell out.

 

[Bobber]

Didn't UNI draw like 10k for their playoff games, well under their capacity?

True, but the dome only seats 16,000 people.

I went to a few games and scrached my head on that one. Their tail gating is a joke relative to ISU's as well.

 

[ajk4st8]

I just hate how influencial preseason rankings are. I hate how certain teams are ranked for no reason other than name value. That probably will never change.

The early season ranking to me is HUGE in getting into a playoff system ranking. We will NEVER be ranked high preseason, which in my opinion hurts us.



Im sure they could sell out all of those playoff games, but Im only concerned with getting OUR fanbase to all those games. Do you really think people could go? I guess in IAA there really is zero road playoff traveling and it provides more of a home field advantage.

 

[Clone5]

I just hate how influencial preseason rankings are. I hate how certain teams are ranked for no reason other than name value. That probably will never change.

The early season ranking to me is HUGE in getting into a playoff system ranking. We will NEVER be ranked high preseason, which in my opinion hurts us.



Im sure they could sell out all of those playoff games, but Im only concerned with getting OUR fanbase to all those games. Do you really think people could go? I guess in IAA there really is zero road playoff traveling and it provides more of a home field advantage.

The rankings that bowls are based off shouldn't be started until week 4.

 

[URBCLONE]

I just hate how influencial preseason rankings are. I hate how certain teams are ranked for no reason other than name value. That probably will never change.

The early season ranking to me is HUGE in getting into a playoff system ranking. We will NEVER be ranked high preseason, which in my opinion hurts us.



Im sure they could sell out all of those playoff games, but Im only concerned with getting OUR fanbase to all those games. Do you really think people could go?

You are dead on in the first part of your post. The bowl system is a beauty pageant which is exactly why the major powers will always profit from it.

As for your travel question. If ISU fans would travel to a bowl, don't you think they would travel to a first round playoff game? And if by some miracle ISU were to someday play for a Nat Title, don't you think you would 'find' the money to go watch it?:yes:

 

[ajk4st8]

The rankings that bowls are based off shouldn't be started until week 4.

In my opinion you would have to somehow eliminate rankings during the season. Not possible as anyone can list a 'rankings'.

When 1 loss makes will seperate almost all 16 teams, dont you have to wait until the final games are played?

Plus with the playoff, look at the huge disadvantage teams with a Conf title game are at.