Berryman sighting
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Hos, a little displeased with my comments? My intentions were to show you how frustrating and insulting it can be to judge someone on something as ridiculous as the threads they wear. Your response and negative rep has shown that you have felt the burden of unjustifiable words.
I could care less how a person dresses. I would never dress how you dressed in your picture, I can promise you that you would probably never dress in the same clothes as me. Nothing wrong with either's opinion as long as we are expressing our individuality. It's just not fair to judge people for something so ridiculous.
I realize you are an opinionated person and the vast majority of your posts I agree with. I respect you as a fellow cyclone fan, the same you should give to a young man who gave countless hours of hard work and dedication to a university and community he chose to love. In my opinion the guy is more than welcome in our stadium and his on-field efforts should be remembered for days to come. I just hope the guy doesn't read these message boards and get the wrong impression from our fans about him.
I could care less how a person dresses. I would never dress how you dressed in your picture, I can promise you that you would probably never dress in the same clothes as me. Nothing wrong with either's opinion as long as we are expressing our individuality. It's just not fair to judge people for something so ridiculous.
I realize you are an opinionated person and the vast majority of your posts I agree with. I respect you as a fellow cyclone fan, the same you should give to a young man who gave countless hours of hard work and dedication to a university and community he chose to love. In my opinion the guy is more than welcome in our stadium and his on-field efforts should be remembered for days to come. I just hope the guy doesn't read these message boards and get the wrong impression from our fans about him.
I don't understand why anyone would care if Jason is going to games or living here. The fact that he's still here despite what happened shows me he has more character than most give him credit for. It would be easy for him to disapear from his problems and go back to Houston and be up to no good, but he's not doing that. I think it's great he's enjoying his life in central Iowa and he continues to support the Cyclones. He was a helluva player and I loved watching him play.
I don't have a problem with him going to games, just stay away from the recruits and players. The guy was a cancer to the program and was given his 3 chances, and failed. If he wants to buy a season ticket and watch as a fan he can do that, I have no problem with it.
ISU should have as much to do with Berryman as EIU should have with Bowman. Jason gave his word to ISU twice that he would not hurt them, and both times he let the ISU family down. That is what I have issue with. Chizik needs to keep him as far away from recruits and their families as possible.
My bad. I forgot the "Ghetto" part of you initial statement. I am as white as rice and your blatant comments come across as racism to me. Maybe I am too sensitive:daydreaming:
So what is the point of wearing those types of clothing if that is not the image you are portraying?
Brianhos
Can you honestly say every article of clothing your purchase is trying to portray the image you are trying to make? Personally, I look at peoples' actions versus the way they appear on the outside. Open your mind and you may be surprised by the people you meet who are actually pretty cool even though they do not dress or appear like you do on the outside.
I have met plenty of people who are dressed in business attire and fancy clothes who would be the first ones to turn their backs on you in the time of need. You may be pleasantly surprised by the loyalty and friendship one of these perceived "Ghetto Ganbangers" may provide you in your life.
Ever hear the saying do not judge a book by its cover? It also applies to people.
Ok, I can judge him by his actions. He is a convicted Felon. Can I judge him on that?
It's a society we live in, get used to it. It's also not just Ames IA. You think it might be bad in Ames, put on that attire and go stand on a corner in Highland Park, IL. In all honesty though, your outward appearance is the first impression people get of you. Where it may not be fair to judge someone soley on the clothes they wear, it is human nature to take your first impression and apply that to to any other interaction you have. It's just the way it is. Why do you think people wear suits to interviews? It may be a prejudice set up based on TV and entertainers, but, none the less, it's there. If you don't want to be prejudged as a gangster, don't dress like one, if you don't want to be mistaken for a woman don't wear a dress and if you don't want to look like an escaped convict, don't wear an orange jumpsuit. I'm sorry, but, it's a fact of life that how you look is the first impression people get of you. I'm sure most people that see me outside of work think I'm lazy and unkept. You know what, that's fine with me. After dressing up for work every day during the week, I don't care what other people think outside of that.
As Charles Barckley says:
"If you are dressed like that...you are not going to a job interview."
Those kids are going out of there way to dress like gang-bangers. And it is not just in Ames that people are lokking over there glasses at them bubba....
Yes you can judge Berryman as a thug/convict based on his actions and I am sure this was taken into account when you judged him. I also agree that he is a convicted felon. He did pay his time for the crime comitted. I would find it hard to believe if it was another player say Todd Blythe, that he would receive the same sentence that Berryman received (this even takes into account the other episodes prior to the mugging).
However, the other threads of talking about someone wearing a certain type of clothes automatically makes them a thug wantabee is crazy to me. I do not wear these types of clothes because they really do not appeal to me. I want to have more money than I know what to do with but I do not go out an buy Armani suits to give the impression I have more money than I know what to do with.
Geez, this is still going? Seriously, why in the hell can't some of you look past his talent and realize that you are basically defending a convicted felon and he's done nothing but add to his thug reputation by dressing like one too. If this was an EIU player I bet you every one of you that have defended him with the "he just made bad choices but he's a good person" crap would have gone to town over all the stupid stuff he's done.
I was ready to kick his a$$ off the team after the felony and Mac basically pulled an Alford and let that thug back on the team like Pierce was at Iowa and in both cases it came back to bite the coach. I'm just baffled how anyone can stick up for him anymore. He screwed up THREE TIMES while being on the ISU roster. Two of them were not your ordinary screwups either, he punched in a car window and beatup a guy for money and a cell phone. Then to top it off he betrayed his coach's trust and generosity by going to a bar while underage. These aren't things an average person does folks!
I'm not saying the guy needs to walk around Ames wearing a suit but when you have the reputation he does and you're wearing a coat with what was said to be $ signs on it, yes you aren't doing yourself any favors trying to shed a bad reputation.
I was ready to kick his a$$ off the team after the felony and Mac basically pulled an Alford and let that thug back on the team like Pierce was at Iowa and in both cases it came back to bite the coach. I'm just baffled how anyone can stick up for him anymore. He screwed up THREE TIMES while being on the ISU roster. Two of them were not your ordinary screwups either, he punched in a car window and beatup a guy for money and a cell phone. Then to top it off he betrayed his coach's trust and generosity by going to a bar while underage. These aren't things an average person does folks!
I'm not saying the guy needs to walk around Ames wearing a suit but when you have the reputation he does and you're wearing a coat with what was said to be $ signs on it, yes you aren't doing yourself any favors trying to shed a bad reputation.
I told my kids if they want to make millions they ought to sell mirrors. There's obviously a HUGE segment of the population that doesn't own any or they wouldn't leave the house dressed like they do!!!
every culture has their own styles. Black or White, there are unfavorable of both. you guys are getting way too far into this. I personally know that Berryman is a good person, he made some mistakes... everyone makes mistakes, they learn from it and move on. Everyone has their moments. Judging someone solely by their appearance at a football game and a few things that were over exposed to the public in his past is insane. Sit down and get to know the guy before you judge him. If Jason wants a job interview he knows how to clean up. Dont forget there are black ISU fans aswell :wink: so calm.
I kind of feel ill after reading this thread. First, Jason is not welcome in Ames because of his past...somebody points out that he is building his own family here, ok. Well, then he is not welcome at the game....wait, he still has friends on the team to watch, ok....well then his clothes are not presentable for a job interview....wait, he is at a friggin football game afterall right, ok.....well then there has to be a problem with something he is saying to the recruits, and his idea for dress style is just wrong.....what!?!? Why don't you guys walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize someone. Imagine if everything you did was public knowledge, just think about that for a second.....and stop trying to morph another argument against him.
