Big 12 Conference Realignment
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Big 12 Commissioner Brett Yormark Has Plans to Shake Up College Athletics
He’s still strongly considering renaming the conference. He's seeking further expansion. And don't bet on anyone beating him to the punch on private equity in college sports. What else does the businessman have up his sleeve?
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I’ve been banging this drum for a while. Preseason rankings are crap. All it does is subsidize big brands and creates artificial prestige when one team beats another. There should be no rankings until the CFP imo.
There's a story on ESPN.com today about OU's move to the SEC and whether it will thrive or become an afterthought, like Nebraska. The whole story is worth reading, but one quote caught my attention.
The legendary Osborne eventually led the Cornhuskers to three national titles in the 1990s before retiring in 1997. A decade later, he became Nebraska's athletic director and helped guide Nebraska's move from the Big 12 to the Big Ten.
"At the time, the South Division of the Big 12 had agreed in principle to join the Pac-12. And we hadn't known anything about it," said Osborne, now 87. "We knew Colorado was trying to leave. We knew that Missouri was trying to leave. We were looking at the fact that, well, we're going to be sitting here on an island. We felt the Big Ten represented stability and we didn't like the fragmentation of what appeared to be the Big 12. That's why we left. We had a lot of connection to Big 12 schools and didn't particularly want to leave them, but we just felt like things weren't holding together very well."
Am I wrong, or is that some real bullsht revisionist history? Nebraska was the first domino to fall in all of college athletics realignment. I thought the Big 12 South's flirtation with the Pac came after that.
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The legendary Osborne eventually led the Cornhuskers to three national titles in the 1990s before retiring in 1997. A decade later, he became Nebraska's athletic director and helped guide Nebraska's move from the Big 12 to the Big Ten.
"At the time, the South Division of the Big 12 had agreed in principle to join the Pac-12. And we hadn't known anything about it," said Osborne, now 87. "We knew Colorado was trying to leave. We knew that Missouri was trying to leave. We were looking at the fact that, well, we're going to be sitting here on an island. We felt the Big Ten represented stability and we didn't like the fragmentation of what appeared to be the Big 12. That's why we left. We had a lot of connection to Big 12 schools and didn't particularly want to leave them, but we just felt like things weren't holding together very well."
Am I wrong, or is that some real bullsht revisionist history? Nebraska was the first domino to fall in all of college athletics realignment. I thought the Big 12 South's flirtation with the Pac came after that.
Is Nebraska a cautionary tale for Oklahoma's SEC move? Why the Sooners think they're ready for a step up
The Cornhuskers were once a college football force, but have faded away since joining the Big Ten. Is the same fate in store for the Sooners?
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I agree I tend to think Nebraska's decision to seek BiG came before the South-Pac talk, BUT I suppose there could have been behind-the-scenes discussions that didn't come to light until Missouri/CU/NU stuff.There's a story on ESPN.com today about OU's move to the SEC and whether it will thrive or become an afterthought, like Nebraska. The whole story is worth reading, but one quote caught my attention.
The legendary Osborne eventually led the Cornhuskers to three national titles in the 1990s before retiring in 1997. A decade later, he became Nebraska's athletic director and helped guide Nebraska's move from the Big 12 to the Big Ten.
"At the time, the South Division of the Big 12 had agreed in principle to join the Pac-12. And we hadn't known anything about it," said Osborne, now 87. "We knew Colorado was trying to leave. We knew that Missouri was trying to leave. We were looking at the fact that, well, we're going to be sitting here on an island. We felt the Big Ten represented stability and we didn't like the fragmentation of what appeared to be the Big 12. That's why we left. We had a lot of connection to Big 12 schools and didn't particularly want to leave them, but we just felt like things weren't holding together very well."
Am I wrong, or is that some real bullsht revisionist history? Nebraska was the first domino to fall in all of college athletics realignment. I thought the Big 12 South's flirtation with the Pac came after that.
Is Nebraska a cautionary tale for Oklahoma's SEC move? Why the Sooners think they're ready for a step up
The Cornhuskers were once a college football force, but have faded away since joining the Big Ten. Is the same fate in store for the Sooners?
I thought Mizzou was technically first in trying to go to the Big10 but got told to pound sand and somehow made it in the SEC.There's a story on ESPN.com today about OU's move to the SEC and whether it will thrive or become an afterthought, like Nebraska. The whole story is worth reading, but one quote caught my attention.
The legendary Osborne eventually led the Cornhuskers to three national titles in the 1990s before retiring in 1997. A decade later, he became Nebraska's athletic director and helped guide Nebraska's move from the Big 12 to the Big Ten.
"At the time, the South Division of the Big 12 had agreed in principle to join the Pac-12. And we hadn't known anything about it," said Osborne, now 87. "We knew Colorado was trying to leave. We knew that Missouri was trying to leave. We were looking at the fact that, well, we're going to be sitting here on an island. We felt the Big Ten represented stability and we didn't like the fragmentation of what appeared to be the Big 12. That's why we left. We had a lot of connection to Big 12 schools and didn't particularly want to leave them, but we just felt like things weren't holding together very well."
Am I wrong, or is that some real bullsht revisionist history? Nebraska was the first domino to fall in all of college athletics realignment. I thought the Big 12 South's flirtation with the Pac came after that.
Is Nebraska a cautionary tale for Oklahoma's SEC move? Why the Sooners think they're ready for a step up
The Cornhuskers were once a college football force, but have faded away since joining the Big Ten. Is the same fate in store for the Sooners?
Tommy Boy is definitely casting himself and Nubs in the best possible light. They were absolutely part of the problem. Acting like it was everyone in Texas, Mizzou, and Colorado that started it... BS.There's a story on ESPN.com today about OU's move to the SEC and whether it will thrive or become an afterthought, like Nebraska. The whole story is worth reading, but one quote caught my attention.
The legendary Osborne eventually led the Cornhuskers to three national titles in the 1990s before retiring in 1997. A decade later, he became Nebraska's athletic director and helped guide Nebraska's move from the Big 12 to the Big Ten.
"At the time, the South Division of the Big 12 had agreed in principle to join the Pac-12. And we hadn't known anything about it," said Osborne, now 87. "We knew Colorado was trying to leave. We knew that Missouri was trying to leave. We were looking at the fact that, well, we're going to be sitting here on an island. We felt the Big Ten represented stability and we didn't like the fragmentation of what appeared to be the Big 12. That's why we left. We had a lot of connection to Big 12 schools and didn't particularly want to leave them, but we just felt like things weren't holding together very well."
Am I wrong, or is that some real bullsht revisionist history? Nebraska was the first domino to fall in all of college athletics realignment. I thought the Big 12 South's flirtation with the Pac came after that.
Is Nebraska a cautionary tale for Oklahoma's SEC move? Why the Sooners think they're ready for a step up
The Cornhuskers were once a college football force, but have faded away since joining the Big Ten. Is the same fate in store for the Sooners?
Can't wait til that guy joins the ranks of people I've outlived.
Yeah, I do recall whispers of that. Still, that's a far cry from the entire Big 12 South supposedly departing for the Pac. Whether Tom is misremembering or trying to whitewash their role in all this, who knows, but shame on the reporter for letting that go unchallenged.
“Agreed in principle” coming from someone who isn’t an attorney is one of those little word tricks that implies possibility whether they have concrete evidence or not. I’m calling it a whitewash.
NU, always the victim. Isn’t it amazing how the B1G carries no fault time and time again for Realignment?
The first to flirt with leaving was Missouri, they even started chatter about it and it got leaked. That's why the Big 10 told them to get lost. Then Nebraska said, "Hey, we'll take their spot and keep it quiet." The B12 South all but inking a deal to the PAC before any moves by anyone else makes no sense at all. Why would any of them have stuck around if they had a deal? Colorado wasn't shopping until they had to as well. I'm not sure about aTm, who knows what those weasils were doing and personally, I'm happy not knowing anything about them.
This is serious revisionist history by TO. And at this point, I don't understand why. It's not like anyone can or will do anything about it, who cares at this point. Hell, anyone under 25 who isn't a huge college football geek, probably doesn't even know who Nebraska is other than another crappy Big 10 team.
I call BS on Osborne. I think Nebs got out right as the conference had negotiated a GOR that locked all members in for 5 years. The threat of signing the GOR was his leverage to get the BIG10 invitation.There's a story on ESPN.com today about OU's move to the SEC and whether it will thrive or become an afterthought, like Nebraska. The whole story is worth reading, but one quote caught my attention.
The legendary Osborne eventually led the Cornhuskers to three national titles in the 1990s before retiring in 1997. A decade later, he became Nebraska's athletic director and helped guide Nebraska's move from the Big 12 to the Big Ten.
"At the time, the South Division of the Big 12 had agreed in principle to join the Pac-12. And we hadn't known anything about it," said Osborne, now 87. "We knew Colorado was trying to leave. We knew that Missouri was trying to leave. We were looking at the fact that, well, we're going to be sitting here on an island. We felt the Big Ten represented stability and we didn't like the fragmentation of what appeared to be the Big 12. That's why we left. We had a lot of connection to Big 12 schools and didn't particularly want to leave them, but we just felt like things weren't holding together very well."
Am I wrong, or is that some real bullsht revisionist history? Nebraska was the first domino to fall in all of college athletics realignment. I thought the Big 12 South's flirtation with the Pac came after that.
Is Nebraska a cautionary tale for Oklahoma's SEC move? Why the Sooners think they're ready for a step up
The Cornhuskers were once a college football force, but have faded away since joining the Big Ten. Is the same fate in store for the Sooners?
LOL There's some additional key information there he's not sharing.There's a story on ESPN.com today about OU's move to the SEC and whether it will thrive or become an afterthought, like Nebraska. The whole story is worth reading, but one quote caught my attention.
The legendary Osborne eventually led the Cornhuskers to three national titles in the 1990s before retiring in 1997. A decade later, he became Nebraska's athletic director and helped guide Nebraska's move from the Big 12 to the Big Ten.
"At the time, the South Division of the Big 12 had agreed in principle to join the Pac-12. And we hadn't known anything about it," said Osborne, now 87. "We knew Colorado was trying to leave. We knew that Missouri was trying to leave. We were looking at the fact that, well, we're going to be sitting here on an island. We felt the Big Ten represented stability and we didn't like the fragmentation of what appeared to be the Big 12. That's why we left. We had a lot of connection to Big 12 schools and didn't particularly want to leave them, but we just felt like things weren't holding together very well."
Am I wrong, or is that some real bullsht revisionist history? Nebraska was the first domino to fall in all of college athletics realignment. I thought the Big 12 South's flirtation with the Pac came after that.
Is Nebraska a cautionary tale for Oklahoma's SEC move? Why the Sooners think they're ready for a step up
The Cornhuskers were once a college football force, but have faded away since joining the Big Ten. Is the same fate in store for the Sooners?
This article has some good discussion on several of the topics I’ve seen debated here (whether to accept private equity money, whether to add UCONN, naming rights, etc).
The article left me thinking private equity should only be used as a last resort. The advantage is you get some cash upfront (the article says a one-time cash infusion of $50-75m per school) but then the PE firm owns say 20% of the league and they are going to want 20% of all future TV deals as repayment. I guess just like any company looking to take on a PE investment, you have to have confidence that you are going to use that upfront cash to create enough value that it’s eventually worth it.
As for UCONN, the article implies that Yormark is pushing for them and has always wanted them, but he doesn’t yet have the votes he needs (needs 12 of 16 members to vote yes). The article lists all of the pros and cons for the deal. One that I thought was interesting is that it’s viewed as a way to potentially destabilize the ACC because UCONN is viewed as one of their likely targets if they need to backfill when/if Clemson and FSU leave.
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The article left me thinking private equity should only be used as a last resort. The advantage is you get some cash upfront (the article says a one-time cash infusion of $50-75m per school) but then the PE firm owns say 20% of the league and they are going to want 20% of all future TV deals as repayment. I guess just like any company looking to take on a PE investment, you have to have confidence that you are going to use that upfront cash to create enough value that it’s eventually worth it.
As for UCONN, the article implies that Yormark is pushing for them and has always wanted them, but he doesn’t yet have the votes he needs (needs 12 of 16 members to vote yes). The article lists all of the pros and cons for the deal. One that I thought was interesting is that it’s viewed as a way to potentially destabilize the ACC because UCONN is viewed as one of their likely targets if they need to backfill when/if Clemson and FSU leave.
Here is the link
I'm sure this has been posted, but WHOOO!
Pressure is a privilege
What's next?? WE ARE
Marketing killed it
Pressure is a privilege
What's next?? WE ARE
Marketing killed it
This is the tale of a person who knows a portion of his legacy is the last 15 years. Of course it’s revision.There's a story on ESPN.com today about OU's move to the SEC and whether it will thrive or become an afterthought, like Nebraska. The whole story is worth reading, but one quote caught my attention.
The legendary Osborne eventually led the Cornhuskers to three national titles in the 1990s before retiring in 1997. A decade later, he became Nebraska's athletic director and helped guide Nebraska's move from the Big 12 to the Big Ten.
"At the time, the South Division of the Big 12 had agreed in principle to join the Pac-12. And we hadn't known anything about it," said Osborne, now 87. "We knew Colorado was trying to leave. We knew that Missouri was trying to leave. We were looking at the fact that, well, we're going to be sitting here on an island. We felt the Big Ten represented stability and we didn't like the fragmentation of what appeared to be the Big 12. That's why we left. We had a lot of connection to Big 12 schools and didn't particularly want to leave them, but we just felt like things weren't holding together very well."
Am I wrong, or is that some real bullsht revisionist history? Nebraska was the first domino to fall in all of college athletics realignment. I thought the Big 12 South's flirtation with the Pac came after that.
Is Nebraska a cautionary tale for Oklahoma's SEC move? Why the Sooners think they're ready for a step up
The Cornhuskers were once a college football force, but have faded away since joining the Big Ten. Is the same fate in store for the Sooners?
Big 12 Commissioner Brett Yormark Has Plans to Shake Up College Athletics
He’s still strongly considering renaming the conference. He's seeking further expansion. And don't bet on anyone beating him to the punch on private equity in college sports. What else does the businessman have up his sleeve?
I think a new permanent name plus a presenting sponsor is a can't lose. Calling it "Sponsor" Conference could be really bad if the sponsor is a divisive company or if it changes frequently.
The Big 12 isn't some ancient classic brand to begin with, then you've got 8 of the 16 that are all new. Cash in on being in a unique spot where you don't lose much with the brand change.
Gemini recommended "The League" as a possible rebrand.
The League brought to you by Allstate.
I guess there was a TV show with that name, but a decent effort from the AI
