Big East looking to add TCU?

[hawkfan]

Big East looking to invite TCU?

If the Big East can expand to 12 there would be room to add 4 schools...as there are only 8 members in the league currently (for football).

 

[hawkfan]

My only thought on this is: TCU would be crazy to leave the MWC if the MWC ends up adding Boise State, Nevada, Fresno State, and Houston (as the MWC is reportedly trying to get Houston into the league).

If all of those teams are added, I think the MWC definitely becomes an a****id league.

 

[Farnsworth]

makes sense geographically

 

[CYphyllis]

Desperation is unattractive.

 

[UNIGuy4Cy]

Well at least when the Big 12 blows up and the North schools and Baylor are looking at the Big East, there is already the Texas affect.

 

[CyJack13]

The Big East needs to realize it's just a basketball conference and stop trying to improve its football conference. Its football television revenue is already way behind the other five BCS conferences and adding TCU or Villanova or whoever else isn't going to catch them up. By adding teams like TCU or East Carolina, they are just speeding up the disintigration of the Big East basketball conference as the non FBS teams will split off.

 

[CYphyllis]

Well at least when the Big 12 blows up and the North schools and Baylor are looking at the Big East, there is already the Texas affect.

You are the worst type of fan.

 

[Wesley]

This would open up the texas market to watch Big East.

 

[UNIGuy4Cy]

You are the worst type of fan.

what the hell does that mean?

 

[HFCS]

My only thought on this is: TCU would be crazy to leave the MWC if the MWC ends up adding Boise State, Nevada, Fresno State, and Houston (as the MWC is reportedly trying to get Houston into the league).

If all of those teams are added, I think the MWC definitely becomes an a****id league.

On one hand I agree this is likely a better long term football conference than the current Big East + 4, even without Utah and BYU. But on the other handI wonder how long any of it really lasts.

TCU is on the outer geographic edge of either conference.

To me, it boils down to... should a meltdown occur, are you more likely to end up in the privileged 64 as a member of a defunct Big East or a neutered MWC? I think TCU would be better off moving east because there are only 4 spots available to the west (if Pac Ten commish gets his dream) and there are still 11 spots available in the eastern conferences (big10/ACC/SEC all have 4 spots but one is for ND).

16 spots, 19 current Big12/BigEast/ND schools, and a handful of teams like TCU/BSU/Houston/BYU who can make a case they offer more than some of those other 19. In the end either the dream of NFL 2.0 is squashed or about 7-8 deserving athletic programs get crushed in terms of football.

 

[CloneState1028]

what the hell does that mean?

Outside source here, but I'm guessing he means exactly what it says.

 

[ketelmeister]

I would not mind Iowa State in the Big East of the money were there.

 

[Sawyer]

good move. Big East is stronger than the MWC.

 

[HFCS]

good move. Big East is stronger than the MWC.

Maybe overall athletic programs or in financial terms, but not on the football field.

Big East: no ranked teams

MWC, next year's lineup: #3, #5, #25, (and 29 others with votes)

If you want to go this year's lineup it's #5, #13, still better than no ranked teams

 

[Frak]

Maybe overall athletic programs or in financial terms, but not on the football field.

Big East: no ranked teams

MWC, next year's lineup: #3, #5, #25, (and 29 others with votes)

If you want to go this year's lineup it's #5, #13, still better than no ranked teams

If we've learned anything, it's that tradition and FB rankings mean very little. It's all about TV sets and recruiting territories. To me, the MWC with no BYU or Utah is destined to be a mid-major conference. There's still the chance that the Pac 10 will expand with 4 more teams, but I don't think that anyone in the MWC is worthy. For the most part, they have small stadiums and followings. I think that if the Pac 10 does expand, they are going to try for Big 12 teams again.

I personally would be thinking really hard about the Big East if a couple of teams like KU and Mizzou would be interested in going with us. The only problem that I see is that the Big 10 may poach a couple of teams. To me it has always come down to the Big 12 needing to solidify itself with more teams. Being proactive is the way to do it...grab Louisville, Cincy, BYU, Air Force. A move to 14 or 16 would isolate us from the sharks plus destabilize the Big East and MWC, making our conference clearly one of the more stable ones. If that costs teams a couple of million a year, it's worth it.

Yeah, I know it's probably not going to happen, but I don't like just sitting there hoping things turn out well. I do think that it is obvious that the Big East basketball only schools will break off at some point and start their own basketball league. When that happens, look for ND and BYU to join the Big 12 in all sports but FB.

 

[HFCS]

I agree with you on all accounts Frak.

 

[Sawyer]

I think it comes down to what conference has teams with the most history. MWC is losing BYU and Utah and i dont know that making the MWC the new Wac is going to be good enough for TCU.

 

[HFCS]

I think it comes down to what conference has teams with the most history. MWC is losing BYU and Utah and i dont know that making the MWC the new Wac is going to be good enough for TCU.

The thing is, the Big East has no football history either, outside of West Virginia and Pitt, it's practically a Pitt/WV auto bid.

4 of the 8 teams have not even historically been 1A football schools. What other BCS conference has half the teams as recent arrivals in FBS? None, not even several non BCS conferences. In that respect the Big East shares company with only the Sun Belt.

It's not so much a case of the MWC deserving a BCS bid compared to the six BCS conferences, it's a case of the Big East with only 8 teams getting one without being worthy over the MWC.

 

[fanaticagain]

Big East looking to invite TCU?

If the Big East can expand to 12 there would be room to add 4 schools...as there are only 8 members in the league currently (for football).

The Big East has already asked Villanova (a member in other sports) to join them in football, so that's one. TCU would be a second. That would leave two more.