I don't see how one year makes any sense considering the fact that the lines are nowhere close to being competitive and the linebackers are at least a few years away. You keep him for several seasons or can him now IMO.
BLUM: Paul Rhoads deserves another climb
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People pretend like Chizik had a bunch of four star recruits in here. He had roughly the same level of recruits CPR gets now. I think CPR probably has less talent on the 1st string on defense than he did in his first four seasons, but he definitely has more talent in the skill positions on offense than when he got here. Attrition and injuries have much more to do with the results than whose recruits CPR is coaching.
He's got more talent on the outside, sure. I don't think anybody would attempt to debate that. The talent on the inside is as bad as I've seen it for 2 years running and we're hoping to scrape a ton of JUCO's together to even give ourselves a shot there.
I enjoy reading Blum’s columns. He is perhaps my favorite CF columnist.
OK, not “perhaps.†He is. But this one? I have no idea what went wrong.
Well-written, as usual. However, major flaw, almost immediately:
"Winning five games in two years is never acceptable, but right now it is reality."
(My italics).
If it’s “never†acceptable, how can you argue that a coach deserves another season? It doesn’t help that what follows that is an extensive list of excuse-making — that's a separate topic.
A better choice of words might have helped.
"Winning five games in two years does not inspire confidence... (etc.)â€
This has nothing to do with my opinion of the state of ISU football or the retention/dismissal argument for Rhoads. I’m as patient as possible with ISU football coaches — it isn’t the easiest gig in college sports — but this actually makes me less inclined to be optimistic.
OK, not “perhaps.†He is. But this one? I have no idea what went wrong.
Well-written, as usual. However, major flaw, almost immediately:
"Winning five games in two years is never acceptable, but right now it is reality."
(My italics).
If it’s “never†acceptable, how can you argue that a coach deserves another season? It doesn’t help that what follows that is an extensive list of excuse-making — that's a separate topic.
A better choice of words might have helped.
"Winning five games in two years does not inspire confidence... (etc.)â€
This has nothing to do with my opinion of the state of ISU football or the retention/dismissal argument for Rhoads. I’m as patient as possible with ISU football coaches — it isn’t the easiest gig in college sports — but this actually makes me less inclined to be optimistic.
Yes exactly. Blum makes a bunch of points about how Rhoads f'd up. And then bizarrely concludes that keeping Rhoads is the right decision.
Don't act like you didn't enjoy those seasons after what we had been through in the previous years.
Fair point. The idea I was trying to get across was Rhoads can't change the fact that he has won 5 games in two years. I tried to explain the reason why that happened. And then make the point that within the cycle of peaks and valleys, Iowa State is due to trend up again. Blowing up the operation now would prevent that immediate climb.
Appreciate you reading and the discussion.
So basically your main argument for keeping Rhoads another year is simply because you think the team is due to trend up again!? Sorry, but if that's all you got then he should be gone. If you were in Vegas betting money that you shouldn't be betting and you're losing your *** do you keep betting your life savings simply because you are due to win for once?
55 of these could probably be hidden under the cushions:
I'll be back in a minute, I'm going to go check my couches...
There is more to it than that. I wish I could explain all the reasons (returning experience, schedule setup), but bottom line, yes I do think Iowa State will win several more games next year.
I don't disagree with this (I think they could win 2-3 more next year), but how many more games is "several" in your opinion? 3? Let's say they do win 5 games next year... is that enough? I mean 5 games is still under .500. That's the real question here. That would mean Rhoads had a 3, 2, and 5 win season consecutively. I fully understand the history of Iowa State football isn't good, but you are basically saying Rhoads should stick around another year because you think the team is capable of reaching 5 wins in 2015. If that is the standard then I understand, but I don't think that should be the standard.
To me, if I were an ISU fan, I would be satisfied with seasons that result in 6 or more wins. That's .500. Anything below that should be embarrassing to accept as a fan base.
What was our record before 2009?
2005 7-5
2006 4-8
2007 3-9
2008 2-10
Then in walks CPR,
2009 7-6
2010 5-7
2011 6-7
2012 6-7
2013 3-9
2014 2/3-10/9
Also keep in mind, that prior to the conference reallignment we also played one or two more non-conference foes... easier schedule than what we face now. Adjustments take time. I get CPR has had 6 years, but he had success at the beginning, not he has had two bad seasons. When you are a first time head coach you haev to learn how to rebuild or repair a team.
Yes, I am just a upset with hwo things have turned out the last two years as any one. Any yes, it is CPR's responsibilty/fault even if some of the small things were outside of his controll, but he is where the fingers get pointed, and rightfully so.
But I do belive he has achieved more in 6 years than any other Head Coach at ISU has in their first 6 years. For this reason alone I believe he deserves a last chance. One more opportunity to right our sinking ship.
2005 7-5
2006 4-8
2007 3-9
2008 2-10
Then in walks CPR,
2009 7-6
2010 5-7
2011 6-7
2012 6-7
2013 3-9
2014 2/3-10/9
Also keep in mind, that prior to the conference reallignment we also played one or two more non-conference foes... easier schedule than what we face now. Adjustments take time. I get CPR has had 6 years, but he had success at the beginning, not he has had two bad seasons. When you are a first time head coach you haev to learn how to rebuild or repair a team.
Yes, I am just a upset with hwo things have turned out the last two years as any one. Any yes, it is CPR's responsibilty/fault even if some of the small things were outside of his controll, but he is where the fingers get pointed, and rightfully so.
But I do belive he has achieved more in 6 years than any other Head Coach at ISU has in their first 6 years. For this reason alone I believe he deserves a last chance. One more opportunity to right our sinking ship.
I'm not sure 5 wins would be enough. The expectation has to be six or more IMO.
