Bracketology- Joe Lunardi
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missed my point... not saying our losses were head scratching... ISU has not had a bad loss with it's full roster. Even without it's full roster worst loss is to arizona... so very good.
I am saying that K-State losing to ta&m, tulsa, are not great for a team competing to win the Big 12, and Baylor (which I expect to fade as their schedule is backend loaded) has two really ugly losses in non-conference play (tx southern, SFA).
I don't take it personally when a bracketologist under seeds or undervalues us personally; I think the level of vitriol towards Lunardi I sometimes see on here is a bit much, but Palm gets under my skin.
I feel he has almost always undervalued us; I remember back in 2012 that he was keeping us out of his projections until we beat K-State on the road. I even remember John Walters mentioning it right after the horn sounded. At this point, it's hard not to take his constant slights of us a bit personally.
The winner of the Big 12 gets a 3 seed at worst. That is clearly what this team should have in their sights. I'd rather play Tenn then and of the other #1's since they are average on defense, unlike Duke and Virginia. Gonzaga is a bad matchup due to their front line size
Can't take this kind of thing seriously but kind of fun to see who they have....but I'm not sure on Michigan State as a 2 (currently)
Every team has lulls and weird losses but I'd think their current trend has to at least knock them off the 2 line currently.
Every team has lulls and weird losses but I'd think their current trend has to at least knock them off the 2 line currently.
Losing in Hilton shouldn't happen. That loss is 100% head scratching. And a little embarrassing for one of the best home courts in the country.
Still feel that way after the turd performance at Hilton against TCU? This team has trouble rebounding and allowing dribble penetration- both formulas for a disaster in the NCAA Tournament.
Haha, definitely do not still feel this way. I think 5 is pretty accurate now. After Saturday, my hope is that this ends up being a team that gets a good Big 12 Finish (2-4), then uses a strong Big 12 tournament to get them to a 3 seed, perhaps in Des Moines.
Saturday was one of the most miserable feelings I've had after an Iowa State basketball game in a long, long time. That kind of game really shouldn't ever happen in Hilton, period- especially to a middle of the pack Big 12 team. Unbelievable.
I understand this bracket and NET stuff creates conversation but for anyone to get worked up about it is senseless to me. It's not even Valentine's Day and people are all bananas over Lunardi? Come on. Brackets are pretty much meaningless until conference tournament time. And then as shown over and over again, it matters most to the bottom 16, not the top. This is like debating recruit rankings but far less baseless.
I would rather my team improve its NET “stuff” in mid February then scrambling to try and improve it in the conference tournament.
My point is that all the NET stuff today can be improved or destroyed the last half the season and no one will remember. That's why I believe getting all antsy about it today doesn't make a lot of sense. Too many games to play.
8 games. ISU is guaranteed 8 more games. In those 8 ISU has to try and steal back a win on the road to offset another home loss (it can with both its home losses). K State is still chasing down the demons of Texas and TAMU. Those games still matter and you have decreased your margin of error.
It’s not about being antsy it’s about wanting to maximize your seed. Losing margin for error hurts just as much on feb 9 as it does March 9.
K-State's goal in the B12 not maxing out its seed. They've said and written that on numerous occasions. As last year showed, seeding isn't everything because the tournament is such a crap shoot.
Agreed - it's all about matchups and what types of bracket madness happens around you.
I would expect nothing less from the guy who gives his team wins based on the “play hard chart.”
I’d rather my team try to win the conference and at the same time put itself into the best possible road to the final four.
1-2-3 seeds make up most of the final four appearances for a reason.
Actually as the data sample increases NET becomes much less reactive. You really won't see a lot of big jumps between now and the end of the season.
Actually, the 'play hard' chart came from Purdue. It's Gene Keady's, one of the finest coaches ever. Weber respects that tradition and the importance of winning every little phase of the game. That's one reason he's such a fine coach, the details matter.
