Bracketology: Relevant Data to Selection Committee

[CycloneErik]

the point is Iowa State hasn't been to an elite 8 in around 15 years. It's stupid to worry about it. If Iowa State gets to an elite 8 it will be a good year. Kentucky is far from unstoppable this year like ESPN would make you believe.

Along with that, once you get to the Elite Eight, everyone is playing outstanding basketball. We aren't running into Drake again at that point.

 

[IAStubborn]

People keep saying we've got a legit shot at a 2-see and it's going to be much harder to get than most expect. Right or wrong there is a lot of distance between the 2 seeds and the 3 seeds this year. While it's technically possible we get a 2-seed, we'd pretty much need to win out, win the conference tourney, and have a couple teams lose 2+ games.

Yep. I think we can take Kansas out, but likely have one more to go.

 

[Rhoadhoused]

I'm fairly certain that Wisconsin and Kansas will end up in Omaha unless we manage to finish ahead of Kansas.

Why are you so certain? 20 miles is nothing and Columbus or Louisville would be much better for them

 

[IAStubborn]

This was the best quote, remember right now a Witchita State does not have that win over a team in the field (Tulsa was in the Last 4 out the last I looked). And so if they lose a couple more times to UNI they won't own a win over the field.

" It's important though because only one team in the last 21 years has received an at-large bid without a win against a team in the field, and only about one team per year gets in with just one such win."

 

[bawbie]

We've got work to do if we're going to replace Kansas......

Current RPI:
2 Kansas
6 Wisconsin
9 Cyclones
14 Baylor
15 Oklahoma
16 WSU
20 UNI
22 WV

Kansas has a ridiculous resume, but it did take a blow last night. They have 7 wins against the RPI top 25 (no one else has more than 5) and until last night they didn't have a loss outside the Top 30 (actually, Temple is #31). Oh, and they haven't played a single game outside the Top 200 (we played 5).

I'm curious who would be higher on the S-Curve if we win out, they lose @OU and we beat them in the BigXII championship. We would almost have to be as regular season and tourney champs, but they would almost certainly still have a better RPI.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Perhaps it is because Power 5 schools refuse to play them and they are doing to best they can with what they have?

That's some really, really solid reasoning right there.

 

[Cydkar]

Great stuff, people may hate the RPI but it's the only thing that matters

wut?

 

[Cydkar]

If we win out and win the conference tourney we will get a two seed. If we don't then there is something wrong when the unanimous champion of the best conference can only get a 3.

Now there isn't really any wiggle room at all to finish worse than that and still get the two seed either.

Conference affiliation is irrelevant although it does lead to a strong SOS in this case.

 

[Cydkar]

the point is Iowa State hasn't been to an elite 8 in around 15 years. It's stupid to worry about it. If Iowa State gets to an elite 8 it will be a good year. Kentucky is far from unstoppable this year like ESPN would make you believe.

How long it's been since we've been to an Elite 8 is irrelevant to this year.

 

[jkclone]

Conference affiliation is irrelevant although it does lead to a strong SOS in this case.

Yeah it is irrelevant officialy, but the best conference's champion not even being a 2-seed would be a joke.

 

[Cydkar]

Yeah it is irrelevant officialy, but the best conference's champion not even being a 2-seed would be a joke.

I'd have to see the other options before I blindly called it a joke.

 

[Beyerball]

Assuming we get to the conf title game we could have potentially (12) top 30 wins...(12) folks. Gonzaga has like (3). Only Duke and maybe KU will have more top 30 RPI wins. If we win the conf and win the tourney we have a real shot at being in the conversation of a 1 seed but we would for sure be a lock for a 2 seed. Our RPI like Adam has said would be 5th our Conf SOS will be 3rd toughest in country and we will have won the RPI toughest conf in the country. The committee has always rewarded teams who play in the toughest conference. And I don't think we would be the last 2 seed either as some have suggested. Just look at the current top 12 and name me a team with a better overall resume Vs the top 50 other than ky, ku and Duke? Maybe Virg? We are in great shape folks. Just keep winning and it will all sort out.