Less home games against SWAC teams that most people don't give a **** about.
Bring Back The Big Four
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Iowa is trying to drum up business from the Des Moines market so they can get their basement arena half full. The problem is DM to IC is really too far for many when it comes to mid-week games. Add in the weather, the sometimes weird start times for BTN games and state of their program right now and it will be a tough climb.
Thankfully, we have none of those problems at the moment.
The CF fan base has never liked these games. I think the less hardcore fans would like these games to be played. Its good entertainment in my opinion. Playing game after game against bottom of the barrel conferences is boring and completely uninteresting.
I liked the schedule enough the last few years. Don’t care at all if UNI or Drake don’t fill it. I went to big 4 twice. That event sucked.
This is only true if you don't play in a strong holiday tournament or other tough non con games.
It's always felt like it's been three fan bases vs one in the Big 4 as well. It's a zero win game for our program.
I was fully on board with dumping this at the time.
I’ve done a complete 180. I ******* HATE losing to either one, but this is so much more interesting and fun than our stupid buy games. Plus, I’m a Drake alum and very casual fan, and I’d love to see them play Iowa.
This is what college sports is about. I understand why we need to game the NET, but I can’t stand it, and if losing one of these games costs us a seed line, we deserve it.
I don’t want to bring the event back - I want the games to go back on campus. I would love to see ISU run UNI out of McCleod
I’ve done a complete 180. I ******* HATE losing to either one, but this is so much more interesting and fun than our stupid buy games. Plus, I’m a Drake alum and very casual fan, and I’d love to see them play Iowa.
This is what college sports is about. I understand why we need to game the NET, but I can’t stand it, and if losing one of these games costs us a seed line, we deserve it.
I don’t want to bring the event back - I want the games to go back on campus. I would love to see ISU run UNI out of McCleod
I just think most people don't find either of them particularly fun. There's no rivalry there from our side. UNI is no different from any other 100-200 team for me, and 70% of their fans seem to be hawks anyway.
Not to mention its really just a math problem from a couple different angles:
-Scheduling-wise, the goal is to maximize NET for tournament selection. Do Drake or UNI provide that benefit? One could argue not, as you can bring in a similar NET team and not have them be as motivated by a one-sided rivalry.
-Financially, Drake\UNI don't move the needle much for basketball in Hilton, so there aren't going to be more additional tickets sold. It'd be a windfall for Drake\UNI that would sell out their arenas if played there. At the neutral site it never felt truly neutral as UNI fans were mostly hawkeye fans so it was majority an Iowa crowd.
This. Our nonconference schedule this year is pretty logically planned out when you consider some of these quad 3\4 buy games basically live practices the way they've always been.
We have 7 buy games on the schedule this year. I imagine the thought process was something like:
2 tune up games to start the year and prepare for our P5 game at a neutral site vs MSST.
1 game to work on things after seeing some real competition before the Players Era Festival
1 game to reset from Vegas and be ready for the road trip to Purdue and the game vs Iowa
1 game as an easy game before finals week
2 games during christmas break when the crowds are generally pretty sparse\sleepy to get ready for conference play (I can't see us wanting to schedule Drake\UNI during this window).
I doubt TJ would want to replace any of those games with a game vs UNI\Drake.
I imagine the schedule next year will look pretty similar, flipping out Iowa for Purdue
It was a great time, I went every year. Casey’s center does suck from a basketball perspective but starting your morning at Johnnys Hall of Fame and boozing to basketball all day before heading back down to court Ave and east village was always a good Saturday bender.
If you look at all CBB scheduling the same theme applies. Either play P5 opponents that have a good shot at being a Q1 win, or bums that you can beat by 40. Risking a Q2 or Q3 loss just isn't worth the upside of a win.
Same. Not the best if you’re looking for a high quality basketball event, but we always had fun.
No one wants to pay extra money to see Iowa play a game, not to mention have to mingle with a bunch of Hawk fans.
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