Caleb Swanigan dead at 25

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It’s still a weird choice to list “natural causes” instead of, say, heart failure, but I’m also not a coroner. Sad, regardless.
Natural means an external force didn't cause the death ie. Gunshot to the head or getting in a car accident.
 
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Just checked out his NBA stats. Looks like he struggled quite a bit with the transition to the league, as so many great 4-year players do. He was a late 1st round pick and only played 75 career games, couldn't find his shooting stroke from 3, which I remember him being quite effective at in college. Since he couldn't shoot at the NBA level his game just didn't translate well. He also had to play for the Kings, which could devastate just about any fringe-NBA players career.

If you aren’t a great defender you need to be a top 20 caliber scorer to see the floor. Defense is name of game in NBA, look at Niang’s radical transformation. Swanigan couldn’t defend athletic college players.
 
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Purdue led by around five most of the first half, extended the lead to >10 early in the second half, before Iowa State had a nice comeback from 10:00 to 5:00 and then it turned into a back-and-forth dogfight. Iowa State actually had a lead of two with 3:10 left on the clock, but Purdue closed it out after that.

Great game in every way except the final score.

Wasn’t that the game that if prong put burton at the 5 earlier, we would’ve ran away with the game because they didn’t have an answer for us going small ball against them?
 
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Just checked out his NBA stats. Looks like he struggled quite a bit with the transition to the league, as so many great 4-year players do. He was a late 1st round pick and only played 75 career games, couldn't find his shooting stroke from 3, which I remember him being quite effective at in college. Since he couldn't shoot at the NBA level his game just didn't translate well. He also had to play for the Kings, which could devastate just about any fringe-NBA players career.

Swanigan left after only two seasons at Purdue.
 

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I remember seeing a video about him, I just tracked it down from one year ago. The first few seconds of this video show him in 2021 and then compare that to when he was in the NBA, his body has been severely transformed and I do not know what happened in the year since that led to his demise.

 
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It’s still a weird choice to list “natural causes” instead of, say, heart failure, but I’m also not a coroner. Sad, regardless.
Might be a question of HIPPA/privacy on the details, versus wanting people to know it wasn't suicide or drugs. Which, sadly, with young people a lot of times it is suicide or drugs. Whenever some famous person or athlete passes this young, my first thought is always drugs...
 

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Wasn’t that the game that if prong put burton at the 5 earlier, we would’ve ran away with the game because they didn’t have an answer for us going small ball against them?

I think this simple narrative is more legend than fact.

Prohm started with a "normal" lineup and went small pretty early. Young played 20 minutes, Bowie played 13, and Nick played three minutes. Every other minute was played by a guard (assuming Burton counts as one).

Purdue built and held a lead despite that. What changed the game around was hot shooting.

The Iowa State run to go from down 19 to up 2 consisted of...

Naz three
Monté made two free throws
Bowie two
Thomas two
Monté two
Jackson three
Monté three
Monté two
Thomas two (down three)
Burton two
Burton two
Burton three
Burton made two free throws
Thomas two (ties the game)
Burton made two free throws

Burton then, bless his heart, was "feeling it" and... shot the team out of the game. The scoring drought from 3:10 to 0:53 let a two-point lead turn into a three-point deficit, and they could not pull it out.

Iowa State possessions after being up two --

Burton miss
Monté turnover
Naz turnover
Burton two
Monté made two free throws
Monté missed three

Four points on six possessions = 0.67 points per possession... not great.

The deficit had already dropped from 19 to three by the time Burton started to go off, which was certainly helpful, but it wasn't enough to win the game. And often is the case with hot shooting, when it turns cold, things can go very badly for you very quickly, which was what happened the last three minutes of that game.

I think a more reasonable reading of the facts of that game is Purdue started strong, Iowa State made some adjustments to put more guards on the court, but Purdue maintained its lead until Iowa State unleashed hellfire from three (mostly Naz, Monté, and Jackson). But then the hellfire froze over, either from cold shooting or Purdue having made some adjustments back against the shooting-centric lineup, and closed it out after weathering the storm. It sucks, certainly, but I don't see any evidence that an immediate small lineup would have won the game. Indeed, it had its chance.

That same small lineup had a two-point lead with 3:10 left and managed to lose by four.

:(
 
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Why are we having a ***** fest about Phrom? Move on

It would be nice to have some way for everyone to acknowledge (Prohm's fault, Hoiberg hated recruiting, McDoormat ran off Wes Johnson, etc etc etc) without everyone responding with a post about it.

Facebook has a like button, maybe we could have something like that...
 

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It would be nice to have some way for everyone to acknowledge (Prohm's fault, Hoiberg hated recruiting, McDoormat ran off Wes Johnson, etc etc etc) without everyone responding with a post about it.

Facebook has a like button, maybe we could have something like that...

Yeah.

:prohm:
 
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