Coach Nate Schmidt

[ISUCubswin]

I have had my gripes with this offense all year but man we couldn’t have drawn a much friendlier plan for Milan to dominate. Started 1-10 from 3 and he was pretty damn open for all of them. I’m guessing the story of the game is quite a bit different if be just makes 2 of them

 

[Clon3]

Not sure that helps your argument.

You are arguing with yourself. I asked you what our offensive game plan was and you said it was to make more shots. We shot a higher % than average for the year.

 

[OscarBerkshire]

Offense over the summer was clearly built around Keshon. Once he went out there was no offensive identity left. I’m fine to give him another season to see what they can do. Guard depth is definitely a problem though, realistically we need an impactful transfer or one of the freshmen to play right away

 

[twincyties]

We need a few sets to get easy looks when we’ve gone cold shooting. Not many teams are going survive a 20-2 run in a second round game. There is just no excuse for it.

 

[chuckd4735]

You are arguing with yourself. I asked you what our offensive game plan was and you said it was to make more shots. We shot a higher % than average for the year.

Yeah, no. I'm saying the offensive game plan led to quite a few open looks that didn't fall. Had those gone in, we would have shot over our average. This is pretty simple.

 

[Drew0311]

Was Schmidt the offensive coordinator when we played Pitt in the tournament

 

[bosco]

Who’s looking to get rid of TJ?

The larger problem is morons on this board attacking straw men

You're talking about what needs to change when the team is down 1.5 starters. It's obvious we were limping into the tourney. What was out on the floor wasn't a true representation of the team so judging the program based on this performance is short sighted.

Yes it sucks and disappointing but the program is in good hands and headed in the right direction. I view this team like Houston last year with the injuries.

 

[FinalFourCy]

Nate really needs to go

Why?

Our defense was the issue tonight, and in most of our recent losses

It was a bad night on that end. Without Gilbert and with Lipsey injured, we didn’t have the defensive talent to be elite, particularly since Jackson and Jefferson aren’t the defenders that King, Rob, and Ward were. But we still could have been better

Offense is expensive. I don’t expect we’ll ever be much more than top-20, but that should allow us to make deep runs

 

[Cyclonepride]

You're talking about what needs to change when the team is down 1.5 starters. It's obvious we were limping into the tourney. What was out on the floor wasn't a true representation of the team so judging the program based on this performance is short sighted.

Yes it sucks and disappointing but the program is in good hands and headed in the right direction. I view this team like Houston last year with the injuries.

Great comparison.

If we're talking coaching, we had a great plan to bully them inside that worked well, and then a plan to kick out once they started collapsing (which they did in a big way). That contingency plan got great shooters wide open shots. They just simply didn't go down.

On defense, we were giving up mostly shots that we wanted them to take (threes from a poor perimeter shooting team or toughly guarded twos). They just made them. Like, all of them for a stretch. All that was made worse once we went cold on the other end and didn't force them to play against our set half court defense.

The best laid plans of mice and men...

 

[Cyrealist]

How many open shots do you need? They aren’t falling, not open offense.

As Larry Eustachy said, "If the ball goes through the net, you're a genius." We had a very cold shooting night and Ole Miss couldn't miss. They got on a roll.

 

[Clonefan32]

Offense over the summer was clearly built around Keshon. Once he went out there was no offensive identity left. I’m fine to give him another season to see what they can do. Guard depth is definitely a problem though, realistically we need an impactful transfer or one of the freshmen to play right away

I think this is exactly right. Without Keshon, we didn't have anyone that could get to the rim. Lipsey could do it some before he got hurt, but Curtis isn't one to get to the rim alot. I think they just decided once Keshon was hurt that our best bet was JJ facilitating. That's fine, but it leads to some pretty cluttered, messy offense. I think the book was out on us to just harass us on the perimeter because our guards couldn't go around you.

You watch Ole Miss last night and you saw alot of 5 out. Plenty of room to drive, plenty of room to cut with their bigs knowing when to dive to the rim. We just don't have that with 2 kind of traditional bigs and a SF who is maybe best off in the post as well.

 

[ClonerJams]

I've been critical of him, but I don't put last night on him. Milan missed plenty of good looks, coach can't make the shots.

 

[BCClone]

Great comparison.

If we're talking coaching, we had a great plan to bully them inside that worked well, and then a plan to kick out once they started collapsing (which they did in a big way). That contingency plan got great shooters wide open shots. They just simply didn't go down.

On defense, we were giving up mostly shots that we wanted them to take (threes from a poor perimeter shooting team or toughly guarded twos). They just made them. Like, all of them for a stretch. All that was made worse once we went cold on the other end and didn't force them to play against our set half court defense.

The best laid plans of mice and men...

Going over Miss’ game plan. Their adjustment took advantage of our slower defenders. Until we get faster feet, the plan we saw Miss change to after we took the lead, we will see a lot.

 

[Cyrealist]

You are arguing with yourself. I asked you what our offensive game plan was and you said it was to make more shots. We shot a higher % than average for the year.

They shot 58% from 3. Some of them were wide open, but a lot were off the dribble with a hand in their face, "We ran into a buzz saw, coach" - Johnny Orr.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Going over Miss’ game plan. Their adjustment took advantage of our slower defenders. Until we get faster feet, the plan we saw Miss change to after we took the lead, we will see a lot.

As I mentioned elsewhere, if we had had one more guard, we could have countered by going small.

 

[BCClone]

As I mentioned elsewhere, if we had had one more guard, we could have countered by going small.

I don’t know if it would have mattered because they would have attacked whoever DJ, milan, chat, or Jefferson was guarding. They moved the ball until one of them had to be guarding an iso out top, then had a cutter slide across, the iso would drive and if the cutters defender helped, the cutter got a 3 shot, if the defender on the other corner helped, he got a 3. If neither, it was just a drive to the lane.

Those corner 3s they made, many were not heavily contested, they had someone sliding over/out to them and the shooter was able to jump before any real defense was on them. They knew we slid the baseline defender so they would never cut that guy.

 

[Gibbon]

I have had my gripes with this offense all year but man we couldn’t have drawn a much friendlier plan for Milan to dominate. Started 1-10 from 3 and he was pretty damn open for all of them. I’m guessing the story of the game is quite a bit different if be just makes 2 of them

This. If Milan doesn't have arguably his worst shooting performance of his career, we're right there in the 2nd half. You could see by the bricks he threw up off his first few open looks that he was just off last night.

 

[Kettes]

They shot 58% from 3. Some of them were wide open, but a lot were off the dribble with a hand in their face, "We ran into a buzz saw, coach" - Johnny Orr.

When you have a night where your opponent gets super hot behind the arc, you've run into a buzz saw. When you see this pattern in multiple games, you've allowed it to happen. The fact of the matter is that in the latter half of the season, our parameter defense was softer. Whether that is because our opponents adjusted and we didn't or if it's because we played softer; I don't know. But it is a fact.

Some of this loss is on TJ, too. How long did he let Miss go on a run without calling a timeout, in the first half? Also, when he saw the refs were allowing a super aggressive game, why didn't he adjust our play? And why did he keep the green light on Milan when he was clearly having an off night?

 

[CapnCy]

I've been critical of him, but I don't put last night on him. Milan missed plenty of good looks, coach can't make the shots.

Yeah, that's unfortunatly how it goes. Heck, if we could have swapped Milan's games I think we would have still one the first round and likely second round. Just how it goes......if we had Jone's "five minute flurry" he did in the Big 12 and had in any Big Dance game we could be SUPER tough to beat.

 

[crs8975]

I have had my gripes with this offense all year but man we couldn’t have drawn a much friendlier plan for Milan to dominate. Started 1-10 from 3 and he was pretty damn open for all of them. I’m guessing the story of the game is quite a bit different if be just makes 2 of them

I may be mis-remembering which "#" it was but he had a couple of straight wide open ones right when Ole Miss was getting their initial big run that would have helped dial it back.