Concrete slab cracking

Wesley

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Well, he was wrong. I've never heard of not putting in rebar in a slap that big. There is nothing to hold the concrete together. Plan on those cracks getting worse and worse. I am not in the industry, but have had many things poured, as well as helped out on many jobs. From Driveways to walkways I've never seen a job not have at least wire mesh.

I'm sure I'll get blasted by someone who knows more who would say you didn't need it, but I never would have let them pour without putting some kind of metal structure inside there. I know when I did my patio a few years ago with friends, it was in the code that it had to have the wire mesh. And it was about 2/3 the size of your pour. (I'm in Illinois) It even had to be inspected and in place before I poured.

Basically it needs to be redone with mesh or equivalent. He did a half *** job.
 

Wesley

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Would mesh be something that would be put in as they are pouring or would it have to be done before the truck gets there? It was just the sub-base in the morning before I left, but not being there when they poured they may have used something too that I didn't know about.

Another question: we are planning to stain the slab Cardinal and put in gold lines after it sits for 28 days. Do you think it being stained a darker color would make the cracks less noticeable if we go the route of a discount rather than tearing out and re-pouring?

Cracks are cracks. You will be fixing/patching/hoping forever.
 

Acylum

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No rebar? Holy ****. We've done a lot of varied pours for ourselves and I can't imagine anything without some reinforcement of some sort, especially on something that big. Sounds like someone was trying to do something on the cheap. I should also say that I would probably overdo the rebar on pretty much any project but to not have any here seems asinine.

Yup. I know iron has gone up in price but it's such cheap insurance compared to the overall investment.
 

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Next door neighbor who was selling his house replaced his two-car driveway, and went as cheap as possible. An inch less than the contractor recommended. I thought he said 3 inches but maybe it was 4. That was almost 10 years ago, and the driveway looks as good as it did when he put it in. I'd be looking for a replacement.
 

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No rebar? Holy ****. We've done a lot of varied pours for ourselves and I can't imagine anything without some reinforcement of some sort, especially on something that big. Sounds like someone was trying to do something on the cheap. I should also say that I would probably overdo the rebar on pretty much any project but to not have any here seems asinine.


The contractor should have known ACI code has minimum reinforcing for temperature and shrinkage.

Also, throwing some fibermesh in the concrete mix would help against cracking.
 

oldman

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Should've put mesh in. The tricky part with mesh is that it needs to be in the upper third of the concrete to do its job. And I agree with the guy who said it dried too fast. Probably should have misted over it. I think cracks like that will be a problem.

Ask the contractor if he would show a potential customer his work in your yard, and check his reaction.
 

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My advice... take any advice you read on here with a grain of salt (including mine). Get a second opinion from another concrete contractor.
 

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Yeah, I forgot about the misting. On the last big building I witnessed, sprinklers were running for a week. Now, it was 90 degrees all week but there was a lot of water pumped on that thing to have cure as slow as possible. I can't get over the fact that he didn't put anything in it.
 

Clonefan32

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I don't know **** about concrete, other than if I paid to have that done and it wound up looking like that I'd be ******.
 

Clonefan32

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My advice... take any advice you read on here with a grain of salt (including mine). Get a second opinion from another concrete contractor.

What good would that do, unless you are planning on suing the guy? Right now, the most reasonable course of conduct would be to talk to the contractor, explain your concerns and see what he is willing to do. I can't imagine the contractor's opinion would be heavily swayed if you said "listen, I talked to another contractor and he said he'd do it differently."
 

VeloClone

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Next door neighbor who was selling his house replaced his two-car driveway, and went as cheap as possible. An inch less than the contractor recommended. I thought he said 3 inches but maybe it was 4. That was almost 10 years ago, and the driveway looks as good as it did when he put it in. I'd be looking for a replacement.

When we replaced concrete drives in our project we replaced with 4" on the residential drives and 7" on the commercial drives. I would be concerned even about a wayward truck turning around on my driveway if it was 3". Of course they were going for maximum load on this project. The roadway was 11.5" hinge jointed like most of the interstate construction was at the time.
 

Cyclonesrule91

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Cement Truck came at 9:00 Friday morning and they poured, came back Saturday late morning (after 10 and before 2) and cut it. Attaching a picture of the cracks tonight View attachment 26230

Did he mount the cement saw on his big Bobcat and drive on the concrete????? That is a joke and not a good one either..LOL

One crack or a few cracks basically horizontal to each other = Meh, I could live with it.
Cracks that run vertical to each other and intersect = Replace it

This fall you get moisture in those cracks and frost comes back and that pad will heave into a boulder pile, especially if there is no rebar or mesh put in prior. That's my opinion.
 

Wesley

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My advice... take any advice you read on here with a grain of salt (including mine). Get a second opinion from another concrete contractor.

What second opinion is needed? It cracked severely. Replace. It was a poor effort. Maybe color can be added to the replacement.