Conference Schedules Post Realignment

[Allikat]

Setting up a different thread to discuss how you would set up the conference after the dust settles.

 

[Allikat]

I personally prefer protected rivalries.

16 teams works better than fourteen in my model.

Each team gets three protected rivals that you play every year. The remaining 12 you play every other year.

Team		R1	R2	R3
ISU		KU	KS	OSU
ASU		AZ	COL	BYU
AZ		ASU	KU	UU
UU		BYU	TT	AZ
COL		KS	ASU	TT
KS		COL	ISU	KU
KU		ISU	AZ	KS
TT		TCU	UU	COL
BAY		UCF	BYU	TCU
HOU		OSU	CIN	WV
OSU		HOU	TCU	ISU
TCU		TT	OSU	BAY
CIN		WV	HOU	UCF
UCF		BAY	WV	CIN
WV		CIN	UCF	HOU
BYU		UU	BAY	ASU

 

[StLouisClone]

If we stay at 16, I like the idea of 3 protected rivalries. If we go to 18 (let's say we get Stanford and UConn for the sake of argument), I like creating 3 pods based on geography. You would play the 5 opponents in your pod every year in football and 4 of the remaining 12 once every 3 years.

WEST:
Stanford
BYU
Utah
Arizona
ASU
Colorado

CENTRAL/NORTH:
ISU
Kansas
KSU
OSU...... or UConn
TTU........ or Cincinnati
Baylor..... . or W. Virginia

EAST/SOUTH:
TCU
Houston
UCF
UConn...... or OSU
Cincinnati...... or TTU
W. Virginia...... or Baylor

 

[madguy30]

It's boring and won't happen but for football: two divisions, one random cross-divisional game, division winners play in the conference title game.

Not sure what to do with basketball. Protected rivalries to keep home/home would be fun.

 

[SCNCY]

It's boring and won't happen but for football: two divisions, one random cross-divisional game, division winners play in the conference title game.

Not sure what to do with basketball. Protected rivalries to keep home/home would be fun.

I’m not a fan of the divisions and only playing one in another division. I prefer a schedule where you play all conference members at least once every 4 years. None of this Iowa stuff of avoiding Ohio state and Penn State for years on end.

 

[QBEagles]

I don't see a clean way to do divisions (I won't use the p-word), but I agree the three rivals system is more flexible anyway. Play those three annually in football and everyone else 2 out of 4. Basketball would be home-and-home with rivals and everyone else once. I came up with:

Team	1	2	3
UCF	WVU	Cincy	Houston
Cincy	WVU	UCF	Houston
WVU	Cincy	UCF	ISU
ISU	KSU	KU	WVU
KU	KSU	ISU	OSU
KSU	KU	ISU	CO
OSU	KU	CO	Baylor
TT	Houston	TCU	Baylor
Baylor	TCU	TT	OSU
TCU	Baylor	TT	BYU
Houston	TT	UCF	Cincy
CO	KSU	OSU	AZ
UT	BYU	AZ	ASU
BYU	UT	TCU	ASU
AZ	ASU	UT	CO
ASU	AZ	UT	BYU

- ISU/WVU is driven from the WVU end. If they have to have 3 everyone else makes even less sense.
- Kind of lame to give Houston only one other TX team, but the other AAC teams don't have history with anyone else. TT seems to be their biggest TX rival.
- OSU/Baylor isn't much of a thing, but OSU likes playing in TX and they've played annually for a while now.
- TCU/BYU makes no geographic sense, but they were old MW rivals.
- I couldn't get UT/CO to work, but I don't think that ever really caught on.

Alternatively, you could use the (now scrapped) B1g 16-team system and just have up to three rivals. In that case cross out the ones that don't make sense and maybe add a few that couldn't be worked in.

 

[NetflixAndClone]

 

[tim_redd]

I still think we need to do something different and follow the NFL model. "Divisions" of 4 with your protected rivals. Schedule of:

3 games against your divisions
4 games against a yearly rotation division
2 games against the same place finishers across divisions from the previous year.

 

[theshadow]

3 games in your group
2 games against each other group, flipping every 2 years (teams 1/2 for 3/4)

Play non-group opponents home and away once in a 4-year cycle -- like the original Big 12.

A1	A2	A3	A4	B1	B2	C1	C2	D1	D2
A2	A1	A3	A4	B1	B2	C1	C2	D1	D2
A3	A1	A2	A4	B3	B4	C3	C4	D3	D4
A4	A1	A2	A3	B3	B4	C3	C4	D3	D4
B1	B2	B3	B4	A1	A2	C1	C2	D1	D2
B2	B1	B3	B4	A1	A2	C1	C2	D1	D2
B3	B1	B2	B4	A3	A4	C3	C4	D3	D4
B4	B1	B2	B3	A3	A4	C3	C4	D3	D4
C1	C2	C3	C4	A1	A2	B1	B2	D1	D2
C2	C1	C3	C4	A1	A2	B1	B2	D1	D2
C3	C1	C2	C4	A3	A4	B3	B4	D3	D4
C4	C1	C2	C3	A3	A4	B3	B4	D3	D4
D1	D2	D3	D4	A1	A2	B1	B2	C1	C2
D2	D1	D3	D4	A1	A2	B1	B2	C1	C2
D3	D1	D2	D4	A3	A4	B3	B4	C3	C4
D4	D1	D2	D3	A3	A4	B3	B4	C3	C4

 

[SolterraCyclone]

I still think we need to do something different and follow the NFL model. "Divisions" of 4 with your protected rivals. Schedule of:

3 games against your divisions
4 games against a yearly rotation division
2 games against the same place finishers across divisions from the previous year.

This helps with parity too. I like this solution. Some of the options with the three protected rivals are pretty rough

 

[madguy30]

I’m not a fan of the divisions and only playing one in another division. I prefer a schedule where you play all conference members at least once every 4 years. None of this Iowa stuff of avoiding Ohio state and Penn State for years on end.

Yeah anything that's consistent I guess is all I ask for in the end.

 

[HoopsTournament]

I still think we need to do something different and follow the NFL model. "Divisions" of 4 with your protected rivals. Schedule of:

3 games against your divisions
4 games against a yearly rotation division
2 games against the same place finishers across divisions from the previous year.

Love this idea.

 

[HFCS]

I don't see a clean way to do divisions (I won't use the p-word), but I agree the three rivals system is more flexible anyway. Play those three annually in football and everyone else 2 out of 4. Basketball would be home-and-home with rivals and everyone else once. I came up with:

Team	1	2	3
UCF	WVU	Cincy	Houston
Cincy	WVU	UCF	Houston
WVU	Cincy	UCF	ISU
ISU	KSU	KU	WVU
KU	KSU	ISU	OSU
KSU	KU	ISU	CO
OSU	KU	CO	Baylor
TT	Houston	TCU	Baylor
Baylor	TCU	TT	OSU
TCU	Baylor	TT	BYU
Houston	TT	UCF	Cincy
CO	KSU	OSU	AZ
UT	BYU	AZ	ASU
BYU	UT	TCU	ASU
AZ	ASU	UT	CO
ASU	AZ	UT	BYU

- ISU/WVU is driven from the WVU end. If they have to have 3 everyone else makes even less sense.
- Kind of lame to give Houston only one other TX team, but the other AAC teams don't have history with anyone else. TT seems to be their biggest TX rival.
- OSU/Baylor isn't much of a thing, but OSU likes playing in TX and they've played annually for a while now.
- TCU/BYU makes no geographic sense, but they were old MW rivals.
- I couldn't get UT/CO to work, but I don't think that ever really caught on.

Alternatively, you could use the (now scrapped) B1g 16-team system and just have up to three rivals. In that case cross out the ones that don't make sense and maybe add a few that couldn't be worked in.

Playing @wvu less in hoops is one of my favorite hopes of realignment.

Maybe they’ll change post Huggins but I haven’t even considered that a real basketball game in many years. I go clean my sock drawer that night.

 

[Lineup]

are we going to get lost inthis new conference

 

[HoopsTournament]

are we going to get lost inthis new conference

I think we can use Google Maps

 

[HoopsTournament]

are we going to get lost inthis new conference

Seriously, if we can win, we won’t.

 

[Dopey]

I still think we need to do something different and follow the NFL model. "Divisions" of 4 with your protected rivals. Schedule of:

3 games against your divisions
4 games against a yearly rotation division
2 games against the same place finishers across divisions from the previous year.

This. I don't understand why the pods that everyone hates so much can't just be your protected rivals.

 

[CycloneErik]

are we going to get lost inthis new conference

I'm lost already.

 

[PickSix]

I personally prefer protected rivalries.

16 teams works better than fourteen in my model.

Each team gets three protected rivals that you play every year. The remaining 12 you play every other year.

I think you about nailed it. The only change I'd feel strongly about is flipping the two games bolded below.

Team		R1	R2	R3
ISU		KU	KS	OSU
ASU		AZ	COL	BYU
AZ		ASU	KU	TT
UU		BYU	TT	COL
COL		KS	ASU	UU
KS		COL	ISU	KU
KU		ISU	AZ	KS
TT		TCU	UU	AZ
BAY		UCF	BYU	TCU
HOU		OSU	CIN	WV
OSU		HOU	TCU	ISU
TCU		TT	OSU	BAY
CIN		WV	HOU	UCF
UCF		BAY	WV	CIN
WV		CIN	UCF	HOU
BYU		UU	BAY	ASU

 

[PickSix]

I still think we need to do something different and follow the NFL model. "Divisions" of 4 with your protected rivals. Schedule of:

3 games against your divisions
4 games against a yearly rotation division
2 games against the same place finishers across divisions from the previous year.

Solid idea. If parity/creating the most big matchups is the goal, then this is probably the way to do it.

I still like the idea of playing everybody every other year, but this outside the box format may be a close second for me.