Corey McIntosh - Not So Good

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I believe ISU will win 3 of their next 5-6. Might be some lingering koolaid talking, but the schedule definitely lightens up.
 

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It was a put together class, at the last minute, and they are trying. This team is still playing hard, and they're trying. I think that we will win some more games this year, but we just don't have enough plaaaaaayyyyyyeeeerrrsssss as Johnny used to say (for those of you who don't remember Johnny was the coach here from 1981-1994, and built the foundation for this program, and also won a LOT of BIG GAMES).

Look at the bodies on our guys compared to the bodies on the other teams in the conference. Give it some time, and get these guys in the weightroom. It will get better I promise.
 

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Take his damn scholarship away..my god!

If fans had their way with scholarships, we would've taken Jiri's away. And we wouldn't have a Big 12 win because of that.

Corey isn't playing very well right now. While he's a junior, he is a rookie to the Big 12.
 

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Iowa State was McIntosh's only major conference scholarship. His only other scholarship offers came from Loyola Marymount and UC Santa Barbara. I wasn't expecting much from the guy when we signed him and I don't think anybody else should either.
 

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Seriously at this level of handling the ball and shooting ability we are worth two more wins this season. Not sure who we can beat except Colorado from here on out. We still do not have the basic skills of handling the ball down yet. Mike at one point was 3 for 12. Rahshon was 0 for 3.
 

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Corey isn't playing very well right now. While he's a junior, he is a rookie to the Big 12.

We are almost halfway through the Big 12 season and are 20 games into our season, it's time to stop using that as an excuse.

WJ, a freshman...Dodie Dunson, a freshman...Mike Taylor...they are all playing their first season of Big 12 ball.

While they aren't 100% consistant and least they have shown signs of being able to play Big 12 basketball.
 

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Do you guys really expect us to be great this year, we returned 4 players, 4 PLAYERS, yea we are playng bad, it was bound to happen, hardly any of these guys have played in the big 12. What do you expect. I will be extatic15-15, that would be a success with a new system, new players. We were going to have growing pains, we weren't going to change things in one year. McIntosh will improve, he has talent, he will improve, he won't ever be a star, but can be a solid contributor. These guys are still learning, we have talent, the wins will come, be patient and take your heads out of your hind quarters if you honestly believed we were prolly going to be able to make the NIT, yea that would have been great, but it probably wasn't a realistic expectation. Everyone on this team is new, even if they aren't new to the team, they are playing a new role on the team. Texas A &M was a much better team, and we had to figure to lose this game, yea it would have been cool to be closer, but they are more experience and huge inside, we have no bulk, NO BULK at all. Patience, McDermott is a good coach and will make this team improve, this was a tough stretch of games. We get to go home for a few now and hopefully win one or two. It is great to expect great things, but in this case it probably isn't realistic when you lose most of your scoring from the previous team. We looked good at times earlier on in the season, but some of these big 12 teams have created matchup problems, it was bound to happen, take it hard, that is fine, but realize that this was bound to happen
 

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Mcintosh better see 0 minutes next year.....speaking of zeros I'm starting to wonder about Taylor's IQ.......
 

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Do you guys really expect us to be great this year, we returned 4 players, 4 PLAYERS, yea we are playng bad, it was bound to happen, hardly any of these guys have played in the big 12. What do you expect. I will be extatic15-15, that would be a success with a new system, new players. We were going to have growing pains, we weren't going to change things in one year. McIntosh will improve, he has talent, he will improve, he won't ever be a star, but can be a solid contributor. These guys are still learning, we have talent, the wins will come, be patient and take your heads out of your hind quarters if you honestly believed we were prolly going to be able to make the NIT, yea that would have been great, but it probably wasn't a realistic expectation. Everyone on this team is new, even if they aren't new to the team, they are playing a new role on the team. Texas A &M was a much better team, and we had to figure to lose this game, yea it would have been cool to be closer, but they are more experience and huge inside, we have no bulk, NO BULK at all. Patience, McDermott is a good coach and will make this team improve, this was a tough stretch of games. We get to go home for a few now and hopefully win one or two. It is great to expect great things, but in this case it probably isn't realistic when you lose most of your scoring from the previous team. We looked good at times earlier on in the season, but some of these big 12 teams have created matchup problems, it was bound to happen, take it hard, that is fine, but realize that this was bound to happen

I agree to an extent. It's just tough to watch this team get a comeback win against Missouri, get a very solid win against Nebraska, and nearly upset KU only to lose to god-awful Colorado, and proceed to play exactly the same for the next 3 games.
 

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WOW, wow, yea he makes stupid decisons sometime, he is new to the speed of the game, new to the Big 12, new to the cyclones, he will get better. McIntosh will play, he will become smarter, give these guys a break!
 

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Too bad we do not have a baseball team - spring training games starts soon for Big 12 teams.
 

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ohh I agree CycloneWorld, it is tough, tough as hell to watch after that, we played great in those games, but this is the kind of team that is going to play great at times and horrible at times. I hope that we stop playing horrible soon, and I think we will, we aren't getting the contributions we need, not at all. Only Wesley has really stayed consistent out of anyone, hopefully they have lived and learned and can get out of the shooting slump and play smarter, I would love to see that, I just hate to see people coming down so hard so quick on a team who has probably exceeded by expectations. I didn't expect much from this team, Wesley has come in and been great, Hubalek is ten times better than he was last year, Rahshon is a leader and the game will come to him eventually, Michael has a great shot, but he has to slow down and let the game come to him as well. Corey is the only one who has not lived up to expectations, but someone out of that class was bound to!
 

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Corey isn't playing very well right now. While he's a junior, he is a rookie to the Big 12.

That's an ISUFan22 answer if I've ever seen one.

McIntosh is not a Big XII caliber player. There's a reason he was left over when Mac found him, nobody wanted him.

I'm starting to question McDermott's personnel decisions a little. Ceasar gets PT in a conference game?! C'mon now.
 

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I really thought we would beat #238 Colorado in Boulder. Phsaw, my bad.
Now if we lose to Baylor and Missouri, we will have come full circle to mediocrity, just like last year, only worse. These are two really big games coming up in Ames. We better win or we will be an embarrassment.I wish Mike would drive to the basket at the start of the game instead of when we have already lost.
 

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McIntosh is not a Big XII caliber player. There's a reason he was left over when Mac found him, nobody wanted him.

Yeah. Because the regulars totally played better than him.

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I applaud McDermott for sitting guys down when they're playing awful.
 

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McIntosh is not a Big XII caliber player. There's a reason he was left over when Mac found him, nobody wanted him.

I'm starting to question McDermott's personnel decisions a little. Ceasar gets PT in a conference game?! C'mon now.

WJ was a "left over" and he's doing okay for us.

What's wrong with Ceasar getting PT...no one else wanted to play.
 

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I applaud McDermott for sitting guys down when they're playing awful.

We got on McCarney's *** for not playing guys behind our terrible line and when GMac goes out and replaces guys playing terrible, that still doesn't fly with some people.

I'm glad McDermott sat them, they deserved it.
 

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Questioning G-Mac already? I love it. It's like being critical of a chef who was asked to prepare a 3 course meal at 1am and only had a gas station to buy groceries from. It's just unfair.

As I stated earlier - if the fans ran the program Jiri would've been shipped off a couple months ago. And we wouldn't have one single conference win because of it.

Our guards are very suspect. We knew that going into the season. We've been spoiled with some pretty good guard play in recent years (Tinsley, Stinson, Blalock). Now those tides have turned.

I do see the guys progressing - just not as fast as we want them to and thought they would. In the last couple games, I think Mike Taylor hasn't made a shot until sometime in the 2nd half.

That's a much bigger reason to our losses than Corey. I've also watched W. Johnson gravitate away from some of his strengths and fire up more 3's. It would be nice if Clark would give us some offense one of these days.

This team wins and loses as a team and right now - no one is really playing all that well.
 

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read title. Take his damn scholarship away..my god!

sorry but I can't take it anymore how worthless he is.


Until you can put on an ISU uniform and perform better than Cory at the big 12 level, I don't think its fair to him to get all over his case. It seems people just find a guy to blame our losses on (case in point, we all ragged on Taylor at the beginning of the year, than Jiri for awhile). McIntosh just needs to find his Niche. It's very hard to adjust to a new coach, system and level of play. What the team does NOT need is criticism all the time. Do you think he intends to make bad plays or turn the ball over?